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Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:21 am
by Squashednuts
SeanD380 wrote:Currently have a Madone 9. Looking for a disc braked bike to go alongside it.

Currently thinking :-

1) Aeroad DIsc
2) Propel Disc
3) Domane Disc
4) Bmc Road Machine.


I know 1 and 2 are similar to the Madone.

I get put off number 3 due to the fact the amount they charge, the front brake hose is exposed, using cable ties.

Focus Izalco Disc
I like mine...

Cube make a fairly light one

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:23 am
by mpulsiv
wheelsONfire wrote:I would go for BMC.
Why, it handles wider tires than the rest of those listed.
Always a good idea when it is slippery and/ or when it's frost or even ice.


Domane clear 35mm tires.

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:23 am
by Weenie

N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:59 am
by PaulH
I have a tarmac disc travels well (no hose problems)as well as Madone 9 Image


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Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:10 pm
by wheelsONfire
mpulsiv wrote:
wheelsONfire wrote:I would go for BMC.
Why, it handles wider tires than the rest of those listed.
Always a good idea when it is slippery and/ or when it's frost or even ice.


Domane clear 35mm tires.


My mistake!

I would buy a gravel bike instead. Those houses 650B wheels which can be fitted with seriously wide tires.
The Madone is enough, don't need a second bike to compete with that machine.
A gravel bike opens up a door for a broader range of cycling.
Less restrictions of terrain and weather.

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:26 pm
by Fisherfreerider
Emonda Disc?

N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:23 pm
by TonyM
PaulH wrote:I have a tarmac disc travels well (no hose problems)(...)[/img]


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But with fully integrated hydraulic hoses in the stem (like the BMC SLR01, Wilier Cento10 Air disc or the Giant Propel Disc) you may have had problems to get it in the bike case adequately.

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:41 pm
by mpulsiv
wheelsONfire wrote:
mpulsiv wrote:
wheelsONfire wrote:I would go for BMC.
Why, it handles wider tires than the rest of those listed.
Always a good idea when it is slippery and/ or when it's frost or even ice.


Domane clear 35mm tires.


My mistake!

I would buy a gravel bike instead. Those houses 650B wheels which can be fitted with seriously wide tires.
The Madone is enough, don't need a second bike to compete with that machine.
A gravel bike opens up a door for a broader range of cycling.
Less restrictions of terrain and weather.


I think riders miss the sole purpose of disc brakes. Any modern road frame can clear 38-42mm tire if you mount 650b wheels. I fail to understand why someone need a dedicated gravel bike, geometry aside. You can even convert a road bike into cross bike with a pair of 650b wheels.

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:29 am
by coloclimber
With 28+ tires compatible and isospeed its fine for gravel IME.

Wheels can greatly vary the Madone: as a climbing bike with low pro LW tubulars and some wide tubeless turn it into a relatively comfortable ride on gravel, and some deep 70+mm rims make it a TT bike.

But a Boone disc with 33-40s and a Madone would be a complete 2 bike quiver.

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:45 am
by mpulsiv
coloclimber wrote:With 28+ tires compatible and isospeed its fine for gravel IME.

Wheels can greatly vary the Madone: as a climbing bike with low pro LW tubulars and some wide tubeless turn it into a relatively comfortable ride on gravel, and some deep 70+mm rims make it a TT bike.

But a Boone disc with 33-40s and a Madone would be a complete 2 bike quiver.


28mm tires for gravel? Why? It’s not 2013 anymore. To really enjoy it, you should be on 35mm minimum.
We can also ride on $200 bike from a department store but we chose to enjoy this sport to full potential.

Re: N+1 Next to a Madone 9

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:51 pm
by wheelsONfire
I guess people deem "gravel" very different, from one person to another.
I have ridden 30mm Schwalbe tires which are very fast when you come from 40mm rubbers.
I have several pair of tires hanging here.
From 30-43mm wide.

You can use 30mm for gravel, sure, but you won't win speed as much as some believe.
You can ride faster and less precise with larger tires.
You can bomb more.
In my mind gravel is a wide spectra.
I mean, i am not all in for 700c wheels, i ride 650B to.
Now we talk even wider tires.

I could easily ride 28mm on tarmac or even 30mm if it was very rough tarmac.
I have ridden tires down to 20mm on my road bike.

My point is, when you have tested a wide range of tires and really used them for awhile and adapted, it is resonable to use wider tires
for crappy terrain.

Riding gravel using wider tires saves you from alot of unnecessary fatigue.
That alone saves you from getting more tired than needed.

I would not back one second from buying a gravel if i had a Madone.
It will give you much in terms of different and wider range of terrain and cycling.

It will also reward your cycling and your sense towards it using two different bikes.
Road bike to road bike is like changing a green apple against a red.

I promise you, if you go for a gravel and take those roads you pass by on your Madone, i'll bet you would laugh out loud and feel like when you were a kid.
You should consider it twice.