Weight Weenies

Hi,

If somenoe already has the new 2018 renewed Specialized Allez model, post the frame/fork/headset weight with size please.

Thanks!

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kordis1 wrote:Hi,

If somenoe already has the new 2018 renewed Specialized Allez model, post the frame/fork/headset weight with size please.

Thanks!

I asked recently about the 2018 roubaix sworks. A 52 frame with reflectors and that stupid disk, the bike was 16.5lbs.

Found it myself after searching for quite a while in some japanese website.

Frame/fork/headset: 1365/361/87 = 1813g
Frame without hanger and bolts.
Headset with spacers
Color: Black. Don;t know the size, but its 54 or 56 I think.

Nothing spectacular. Hoped it was closer to Caad or Emonda but with mudguards mounts.

If anyone is interested:
https://ameblo.jp/yamashige5178/entry-12285981527.html

Specialized Allez 2018 weight.
Size 56, matte black, base model

Frame 1434 g (56, with hanger, no bolts, no clamp, no cable guide)
Fork 411 g (26 cm steerer, weight includes expander - probably 26 g)
Cable guide 5 g (w/ bolt)
Seatpost clamp 26 g
Headset 54 g (bearings only)
Cone cover 8 g
Included spacers 9 g (2x 5mm + 1x 10mm)
Seatstay bolts 6 g (for rear rack) - I removed original bolts and replaced with headless/set M5x8 bolts for cleaner visual
Seatpost - 321 g
That's all. I got the spare frame from a friend. With a full 105 groupset, Token C22A wheels. Total bike weight around 8.4 kg.

kordis1 wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:40 pm

Nothing spectacular. Hoped it was closer to Caad or Emonda but with mudguards mounts.

If you are looking for an Allez that's more like a CAAD, you probably want to be looking at either the Sprint or find one of the now discontinued non-Sprint DSWs.

I have a Sprint myself and it's a great bike. Frame and fork (56) come in at about 1.1kg. My current build with Ultegra Di2, comes in at 8.5kg without computers/cameras, but about 2.7kg of that is in my wheels (tubeless, with sealant).

By all accounts I've heard, the non-Sprint DSW was also a great frameset and I've considered trying to find one as a backup bike.

IrrelevantD wrote: ↑

Tue May 08, 2018 4:58 pm

Frame and fork (56) come in at about 1.1kg.

I highly doubt that this is true. Even without extra hardware this would put the bike close to high/mid-range carbon bikes. Even for the bare frame without fork and hardware the 1.1kg looks too low because of the wider tubes.

nemeseri wrote: ↑

Tue May 08, 2018 6:48 pm

I highly doubt that this is true. Even without extra hardware this would put the bike close to high/mid-range carbon bikes. Even for the bare frame without fork and hardware the 1.1kg looks too low because of the wider tubes.

That's what I remember seeing on the scale when I pulled it out of the box. It's entirely possible my memory is off and that was without the fork. I do know it was fresh out of the box, so no seat tube or BB.

I can also most assuredly say that it is lighter than my 2015 Giant Propel was. You got me curious and looking up reviews, and claimed weight for the frame is 1150g, only a few hundred over the Tarmac. It is an extremly light bike, as I mentioned 8.5kg with 2.7k in the wheels and a very much non-weight weenie build. So as I have it built with full Di2 6870, between ditching the Brooks saddle, various groupset changes and some light wheels, you could get that down to sub-7.5k without going ultra weight weenie and there's someone on here who posted pics of a 15.15lb (6.9kg) full build in a 56.

User itguy got a build under 7kg

viewtopic.php?f=131&t=137841&p=1357089#p1357089

IrrelevantD wrote: ↑

Tue May 08, 2018 9:26 pm

You got me curious and looking up reviews, and claimed weight for the frame is 1150g, only a few hundred over the Tarmac.

So I did a bit of digging and here is a real weight weenies brake down. The size seems to be either 49 / 52.
viewtopic.php?t=143188

Frame: 1360g with hardware and headset, probably around 1200-1250g bare
Fork: 380g uncut

Sorry, I don't want to be a know-all, just wanted to point out that 1100g for frame and fork way too light for any alloy bikes. It is still a pretty light and very good frameset, I did own a non-sprint DSW allez and I liked it a lot.

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nemeseri wrote: ↑

Tue May 08, 2018 6:48 pm

IrrelevantD wrote: ↑

Tue May 08, 2018 4:58 pm

Frame and fork (56) come in at about 1.1kg.

I highly doubt that this is true. Even without extra hardware this would put the bike close to high/mid-range carbon bikes. Even for the bare frame without fork and hardware the 1.1kg looks too low because of the wider tubes.

Fuji is selling at that weight.