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Boshk
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by Boshk on Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:39 pm
kgt wrote:IMHO this is a wise choise since you like the frame.
I have bought most of my frames used for like 1/2-1/3 of their original price. In this way I saved money for used LWs and other used hi-end parts. I could not be more happy.
could be a brilliant idea for people like us (in Asia) where demo bikes aren't available.
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Imaking20
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by Imaking20 on Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:53 pm
Tinea Pedis wrote:morrisond wrote:
The moral of the story is - If you a want stiff frame for climbing - the heavier one might actually be stiffer and it will feel better on the climb and I would guess would be no slower as less energy is lost - but I've never seen a test like that.
Cyclingtips had a podcast around this - using steel frames with different tubing - and they did not find the 'stiffer' bike was better on the climbs. And there is seemingly something to the theory of energy return in a bike that has some flex.
Just FYI
I was not aware of this podcast. Super interesting listen. Thanks for bringing it up
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lyrictenor1
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by lyrictenor1 on Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:13 pm
Svetty wrote:@ OP
Head says buy the Fuji but I'm a bit concerned that it has both external cabling and a sloping top tube. Neither of these are ideal according to your first posting. The SS Evo does tick all of your boxes and the non-Hi-Mod frame won't cost you the earth.
To my knowledge, the Fuji SL 2 series has internal cabling. I own a 2016, and I doubt they changed the routing.
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Tinea Pedis
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by Tinea Pedis on Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:02 pm
morrisond wrote:Yes I saw that one. My main point was that the Stiffer one would "Feel better". It would be slightly heavier but probably almost 0 difference in time.
Only that's the point of the pod, it didn't "feel better" for them.
Their findings are by no means scientific fact. But do throw in to question a lot of 'stiffer must be better' that company marketing departments have fed to us over recent times. Specialized making aspects of the new Tarmac less stiff notwithstanding.
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rajMAN
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by rajMAN on Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:13 am
kaboom, Go for the frame you REALLY want because anything else will always come with that little nagging voice in you head that's telling you its NOT the one you REALLY wanted. I have done it in the past and wouldn't do it again. If you have ridden your CAAD for the last 3 years, then ride it another year and save up some more money. I have started a bike fund for my next purchase (OK a piggy bank), which is going to be a silly light, non aero all singing all dancing bike ( I hope). Every time I have ever settled for less I have regretted it. Other folks can live with compromise quite happily. For me bikes are my ONE hobby and passion in life so sod compromise.
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Squashednuts
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by Squashednuts on Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:42 am
rajMAN wrote:kaboom, Go for the frame you REALLY want because anything else will always come with that little nagging voice in you head that's telling you its NOT the one you REALLY wanted. I have done it in the past and wouldn't do it again. If you have ridden your CAAD for the last 3 years, then ride it another year and save up some more money. I have started a bike fund for my next purchase (OK a piggy bank), which is going to be a silly light, non aero all singing all dancing bike ( I hope). Every time I have ever settled for less I have regretted it. Other folks can live with compromise quite happily. For me bikes are my ONE hobby and passion in life so sod compromise.
+1
A well expressed sentiment
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waltthizzney
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by waltthizzney on Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:46 pm
wheelbuilder wrote:waltthizzney wrote:it will make ZERO difference
I don't think I can agree with this in all circumstances. Some brands offer quite a different lay-up schedule and mix of fibers between low-mid and top end frames.
It will make zero difference, you are a sucker for marketing bs. I have ridden a scott foil 40 and the higher end one and they were exactly the same, coming from someone who races cat 2.
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wheelbuilder
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by wheelbuilder on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:59 pm
waltthizzney wrote:wheelbuilder wrote:waltthizzney wrote:it will make ZERO difference
I don't think I can agree with this in all circumstances. Some brands offer quite a different lay-up schedule and mix of fibers between low-mid and top end frames.
It will make zero difference, you are a sucker for marketing bs. I have ridden a scott foil 40 and the higher end one and they were exactly the same, coming from someone who races cat 2.
LOL Ok man. I thought my response was pretty measured. Not sure you need to call me a sucker. I have quite a bit of experience myself, and have been in the industry for quite some time. Have a great day....... and I'm super impressed and happy for you that you are Cat2. Great job!
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