Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
Turns out that wasn't the Ultralight. Bike shop has to order the correct one. Specialized said the Ultralight is the one with the grayish white text for the logo.
oh I totally agree with you and I don't take it personal. This price is indeed insane !! I was mostly saying reasonable when you compare to the S-works Venge Vias Di2 that retailed at 16 000$ MSRP when it came out or the dogma F10 I build at my job (20K +). (with the same features but it's an aerobike instead of a non-aero). Yea my view of it can be a bit distorted since I work in a bike store. I see bikes every time I go to work. The most impressive thing about expensive bikes isn't the price, but the quantity we sell. I guess it might be a reason why I'm use to see so many expensive machines and it doesn't impress me anymore.Bordcla wrote: ↑Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:39 pmI think I know you from another forum and quite like what you generally post. I certainly have no beef against you, so please don't take this personal: I think your post is proof that the constant battering of ever pricier bicycles has seriously distorted our perception of "reasonable" when it comes to prices.
They're selling the frame alone for more than $4.5K and the wheels for 3 grand! That is insane.
$4K buys several other very decent COMPLETE bikes, and I'm not talking cheapy alloy with 105 or Tiagra. You could get a while Cervelo S3 with Ultegra and half-decent wheels for $4K. Very much a World Tour worthy frame, and not some piece of cheap garbage.
I can understand the more complex manufacturing of an S-Works frame increases cost to a degree, but the upcharge has reached ridiculous levels that we start to take for granted.
Enough of these 13K Specialized and $16K Treks! It's insane!
I also agree that a 3-4k bike with nice wheels will have an almost unseeing difference compared to a 10K + bike.
ahah you probably know me from MR I guess
Something seems askew. Ultralite frames appear to be in the right box but are the wrong colour and unexpectedly heavy. Did the work experience person in the factory take the ultralight frames and forget to put them through the ultralight paint process?
I talked with my dealer. The Ultralights have the gray/reflective logo. The stenciled prism/black logo frame is not an Ultralight, but it does have a minimal paint job (you can see the top layer of raw carbon,) so it is going to be a bit lighter than any of the more elaborately painted versions. As of right now the Ultralight is being offered only as a frame.
If you ordered an Ultralight and received a stenciled logo frame, it seems they sent you the wrong frame. Then again I wouldn't worry about it too much...the stencil looks better. It seems the only distinguishment between Ultralight and normal-frame is sorting of fully assembled blanks.
The non-ultralight outlined 'S-WORKS' version looks fabulous in real life. Still, my inner weight weenie loves the idea of only adding 10g of paint! I saw a 56cm red/white/black version - which also looked amazing in terms of the impecable frame junctions, quality of the paint finish, and iridescence of the red colour.
I 2nd that. Saw that a few days ago. I hate Suecialized as a brand but have to admit that particular bike looks great.
Giant Propel Advanced SL Disc 1 < Propel Adv < TCR Adv SL Disc < KTM Revelator Sky < CAAD 12 Disc < Domane S Disc < Alize < CAAD 10
That's a good shot of the outer layup too, so yeah, not sure I'd spend $500 extra for the Ultralight when I bet most of these black/black-prism S-Works will be very, very close in weight. I do find it amusing that these disc SL6 frames might be consistently lighter than their rim-brake counterparts. Now it makes sense why Specialized is claiming the disc builds are only 250-350g heavier...because the rim brake frames were almost 100g heavier...lol.
I've seen both of the complete disc colorways in person now and I really can't decide which one I like better. The black hologram stroke bike is great, but the red/white is pretty stellar too.
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