2018 S-Works Tarmac Disc

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moyboy
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by moyboy

So you don't need the dura ace / ultegra knuckle from the rear mech.
lovemyway wrote:
Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:04 pm
What's this hanger for? What's the difference between this and the standard one?

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by lovemyway

I see, I reckon it's the part in the red circle (I just ride, don't judge me)
RD knuckle
RD knuckle
What are the benefits of using the longer hanger instead of this knuckle?

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The newer derailleurs simply need to be placed in a different position in space. They can get there in two ways... 1) by using the removeable “B-link” attached to a regular hanger, or 2) through a Direct Mount hanger which places it in the exact same place but without the need for the B-link. The shifting should be absolutely identical. The only advantage to the Direct Mount hanger would be in cases where your standard hanger is very soft, affectionately described as “made of cheese”. In that case there could be some unwanted flex which could affect the ultimate shifting performance. The trouble with having only a DM hanger is that it would preclude using derailleurs that don’t use the DM specification.
I also suspect that some manufacturers may produce a DM hanger which actually places the derailleur a little further back than spec’d by Shimano due to difficulties in wheel removal on some frames with the new derailleurs. This would result in slightly less crisp shifting but easier rear wheel removal.
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A direct mount hanger would also slightly reduce the total weight of your bike...

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Can anyone confirm if the direct mount rear derailleur part number listed above is for the Tarmac or if its for the Venge?

Part No: S182600003

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On the Venge PDF it lists it as.... a Tarmac hanger, this looks to be the right part number.

S182600003 DERAILLEUR HANGER HGR MY18 TARMAC DER HANGER DISC BRAKE (SHIMANO STANDARD)

https://media.specialized.com/support/c ... 104623.pdf

colagreek wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:45 pm
Can anyone confirm if the direct mount rear derailleur part number listed above is for the Tarmac or if its for the Venge?

Part No: S182600003

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So i guess the 1000000 question now is this...

Is that the stock hanger that comes on the bike or is this in fact the long reach direct mount version pictured. Anyone have a contact at the big S that could ask??
moyboy wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:52 pm
On the Venge PDF it lists it as.... a Tarmac hanger, this looks to be the right part number.

S182600003 DERAILLEUR HANGER HGR MY18 TARMAC DER HANGER DISC BRAKE (SHIMANO STANDARD)

https://media.specialized.com/support/c ... 104623.pdf

colagreek wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:45 pm
Can anyone confirm if the direct mount rear derailleur part number listed above is for the Tarmac or if its for the Venge?

Part No: S182600003

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by moyboy

stock hanger is this.

S182600001 DERAILLEUR HANGER HGR MY18 ROAD DISC THRU AXLE DER HANGER

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by 1llum4

The venge 19, tarmac sl6 disc, roubaix sl6 and diverge 2018+ all share the same derailleur hanger. This means that they all also have the option of having the Direct mount derailleur hanger

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colagreek
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by colagreek

Just contacted dealer regarding the direct mount hanger, apparently no stock from Speciaized yet. Anticipated availablity q1 2019.


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by Tpb10505

This may be a dumb question, but is it the same direct mount hanger for the Rim brake frames?

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by 1llum4

No, the disc hanger has the threads for the thru-axle. So direct mount hanger for rim bike is different

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Calnago wrote:
Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:55 am
a Direct Mount hanger which places it in the exact same place
It should be but maybe not,
If you look at the spec of the normal rear drop out you'll see that the allowable position are very large. Manufacturer can put rd somewhere in the ball park. Some frame have shorter hanger, some are longer even without drop out extender, some put more forward and vice versa.
Remember when Trek revise rd hanger position to mount further backward to ease wheel removal after the release of 9100 series?

Spec for direct mount drop out is a lot more tightly controlled. Shimano limit allowable place to mount rd compare to wheel axle in a much closer range on direct mount hanger. Normal dropout+link may not put your rd in that space. But Direct mount hanger have to, if they follow Shimano's spec.

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nulldreiundreissig wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:17 pm
There she is!
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Nice !

What does she weigh? Details etc :noidea:

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