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Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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Like some others I'm dreaming of a future bike and while browsing got hung up on a specification for the F10 disc.
Most disc brake frames, especially the aero ones, are quite heavy. No lower than 1000gr I'd say. There are not that many out there so my suspicion is that none have really been built with weight as a serious priority.
If the F10 really does come in at 820gr it would be a ridiculously light aero disc frame. If one could find the dough it could be a true all-rounder (except comfort). Climbs, flats, descents.
What do you think about this? BS?
Frame: Torayca T1100 1K high tensile / high modulus carbon
Fork: Pinarello Onda F10 w/ aero tabs
Rear Stay: Carbon
Fork Axle: 12mm Thru x 100mm
Steerer Tube: 1 1/8” - 1 1/2”
Headset Included: Yes, Pinarello drop-in
Bottom Bracket Type: 70mm | Italian threaded
Cable Routing: Internal, electronic or mechanical compatible
Front Derailleur Mount: Braze-on
Front Derailleur Pull Type: Bottom pull
Front Derailleur Swing Type: Bottom swing
Wheel Size: 700c
Max Tire Clearance: 25mm
Brake Type: Disc
Seatpost Diameter: Aero
Seatpost Included: Yes, Pinarello carbon
Seat Collar Included: Yes, Twin Force closure
Rear Axle: 12mm Thru x 142mm
Sizes: 44cm | 46.5cm | 47cm | 50cm | 51.5cm | 53cm | 54cm | 55cm | 56cm | 57.5cm | 59.5cm | 62cm |
Colors: 917 BoB, 920 Team Sky, 918 Red Magma (special order), 916 Black Lava (special order), MyWay (custom color)
Weight: 820g | 1.81lbs
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Pinarello quoted frame weights are usually unpainted, without any hardware and so on. So I'd say, you can easily add ad least 150g to that number.
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Dream on...... i have/had 4 Pinarello's (Galileo, Paris FP, 2x Dogma size 54 or 55) and the weight NEVER was accurate. No hardware, unpainted, smallest size, etc. For my dize usually +200gr and usually a not very light fork. BUT, they ride fantastic. Once I thought 'lets go lightweight' with a Sworks SL3. I sold it after 6 months. Terrible bike, way to stiff and nervous for me. Climbing was oke, but descending was hell compared to my Dogma.
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Competitive cyclist gives a weight of 1990 gr for a f8 53cm frameset in red/black matt (frame, fork, headset, seatpost and other hardware) I let you do the math's, but it's clear the frame is more around 1200gr or more... And f8 vs f10 will not be that much more, maybe 50gr.
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- Location: Canada
I weighted up a 51.5cm F8 frame set at my LBS a while back. I got 990g for the frame (gloss black/red/white), 430g for an uncut fork and 220g for the seat post. I didn't weight the headset. I think that Pinarello's claimed weight for the F10 disc is optimistic.
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Typically, paint will add between 45~120g. Depending on the type used and complexity of paintwork. (But mostly due to thickness of paint sprayed.)
Then you need to add the various cable sockets/grommets/connectors, the FD hanger, the RD hanger and the seatpost clamp.
So a 820g bare frame will come in approximately 1000 +/- 50g most probably.
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