S Works Tarmac or Scott Foil

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
sweetmate
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by sweetmate

I currently ride a Giant TCR Pro 0 2014 want to upgrade so have narrowed it down to either a S works Tarmac SL5 or Scott Foil latest. Your views and info would be much appreciated as i ride a small frame 48 to 50 hard for me to get a go on one.

I would build both up light as well.

topflightpro
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by topflightpro

What do you want from your bike?

The Foil is aero. The Tarmac is not.

morganb
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by morganb

Are you getting a good deal on the "SL5"? I have one and its my favorite bike, but its not particularly light and about to be replaced with a dramatic departure. If you can get a deep discount its worth it. I don't think you'd be giving up much weight or stiffness and gaining aero with the foil though.

Thenuge
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by Thenuge

The new Foil. It's not really an aero bike but has some aero advantages. Stiff and fast but can climb. Unless all you do is ride mountains, then tarmac.

Noctiluxx
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by Noctiluxx

Why not another TCR? I tested the S-Works Tarmac, Emonda SLR, and SS Evo last year and ended up buying the TCR SL. Has the weigh advantage of the Emonda and the stiffness of the Tarmac. Incredible bike!
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Bogan
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by Bogan

Why is a Foil or Tarmac an upgrade? Can't say I have ridden a Tarmac, but have ridden a late model Foil. I will stick with the TCR.
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kgt
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by kgt

+1
Not an upgrade really. In terms of manufacturing quality it is a downgrade.

istigatrice
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by istigatrice

I'd stick with the TCR too, but if I had to pick one it would be the Tarmac. I'd avoid the foil in smaller sizes because I suspect they use the same rake fork across the sizes which would lead to high trail figures (and generally poor handling).
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sweetmate
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by sweetmate

Thanks guys very valid point about the new TCR. I was looking at the SL5 Tarmac as there is good deals to be had with it as obviously the new frame is out.

£3,250 is allot of moula for a tarmac frame i no its mega light though.

I meant upgrade as in a newer frame design and new bike.

Thenuge
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by Thenuge

Noctiluxx wrote:Why not another TCR? I tested the S-Works Tarmac, Emonda SLR, and SS Evo last year and ended up buying the TCR SL. Has the weigh advantage of the Emonda and the stiffness of the Tarmac. Incredible bike!


I personally really dislike the ISP. It's scary cutting it and then resale value is shot.

sharkman
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by sharkman

Did over 100 builds with isp so far and never had a single problem with cutting and second hand isp equipped frames are rare and normally sell faster than non isp. Best of all it helps to make a better bike and i like the concept....


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kgt
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by kgt

+1
I am also a fan of the ISP concept. Not an issue when selling my Cento Uno ISP frame btw.
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Bogan
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by Bogan

Have to say ISP's are great.
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joepac
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by joepac

The Foil would be perfect if it didn't have the chain stay mounted rear brake. I have heard that people tend to get more brake rub with that location. If that isn't a problem I'd go with the Foil just because it will be similar weight with more aero advantage...

Or just stick with TCR, it's a pretty good bike.

oraclesin
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by oraclesin

S works Tarmac SL5 ... now S works Tarmac SL6...i recomend

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