I was all set on Cip Bond but LBS just told me they have a size 50 blue/black, I believe semi team sky graphics......but F8's sizing is a bit different so a 50 maybe too large for my 172cm height.
Both apparently are Stiff!
Both race bike
I like the look of both....more so the Cip Bond for its various availability of colours.
That said, I have heard good things about both. I would opt for the bond as they are more uncommon and have better color options.
RyanH wrote:Isn't the fit a lot different between the two?
Maybe, according to basic numbers only, the Bond is more aggressive, less stack, same reach than the F8.
Size 50 F8 Stack/Reach ratio is 1.39 whereas the Bond is 1.35.
Some like Bianchi XR1 and new XR4 are down to 1.30 ratio but then forums member state the bike is really comfortable, dependent on rider fitness and flex I guess.
So, would I buy Cipo ? No. Not my geometry, and that's my ONLY problem with it.
I can be wrong, and have plenty of examples for that
Purely based on geometry, it might be a bit too aggressive for me, granted it can be 'made more comfortable' with spacers and reverse stem.
Came across a new Colnago C60 frameset (old colours) which is actually cheaper than F8 and same price as Bond.
Doesn't seem to be any real bad forum complaints on the C60 except for those looking for sub 800g frames, think C60 is around 1050g.
When I have read reviews about bikes, when they say this and that, I thought to myself, no just no. It's carbon layup, it's all the same. How very wrong I was!
trimenc wrote:4151zero, "mostly Italian?" What do you mean by "mostly?"
It's well documented that the frame tubes are sourced from Taiwan and some parts of China using high end Japanese carbon. Then both pinarello and colnago assemble and or paint and finish the monocoque details in italia. That's apparently enough to get a "made in Italy " decal and classification.
4151zero wrote:C60 is classy, lugged and mostly Italian. The f8 a great frame set and just as classy, well tuned for ride and strength (imho) and expensive. I own an f8 but still wish I could afford a c60 one day.
This i don't understand if you can buy an f8 then you have could buy a C60? Price is almost the same for a frameset.
I had a Pinarello F8 Bob and i have sold it after 6 months. It looks great, like almost al italian bikes, but is was also very hard/stiff bike. The bikes i had before (BMC slr01 and Sworks venge old version) were more comfortable for the road in Belgium.
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