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alcatraz
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by alcatraz

Which one is in your opinion easier to get to a light weight?

Seeing as many of these have integrated brakes, seatposts, handlebars, cables, not much can be done to minimize weight.

So in the search for a light aero bike these days, which one stands out?

Plus points if it's award winning aero design :D

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by jlok

The least integrate designed has the best potential to get wwed. But that might lose the aero advantages... and I hope the selection of the ww components would beat the original aesthetic.
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Scott Foil will be one of your lightest options.

I had mine at 6.2kg with the RZRs, eeBrakes and a Red GXP Quarq (760g). I think I could have gotten it down to 5.5kg with some effort.

Subtract 200g for the power meter and add back 250g for Bora 50s to keep the build reasonable. Image
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by Imaking20

My AR FRD was 6235g without a lot of effort. eTap, EE brakes, and Reynolds tubulars (~1340g). With the same spec that's currently on my C60 - the AR would have been ~5.8kg

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by 53x12

RyanH wrote:Scott Foil will be one of your lightest options.

I had mine at 6.2kg with the RZRs, eeBrakes and a Red GXP Quarq (760g). I think I could have gotten it down to 5.5kg with some effort.

Subtract 200g for the power meter and add back 250g for Bora 50s to keep the build reasonable. Image



A Felt AR FRD in a size 56 will be significantly lighter than a Foil Team size 52 frame


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by FIJIGabe

The current Madone is heavy - there's just no way around it. It has proprietary brakes and bar/stem combo and the seattube w/in a seattube construction (for IsoSpeed).

If you can get your hands on a previous-generation Madone (the one with the BB mounted brakes), you can really get that light, while having good aero properties. To give you an idea, on a 54, my shop weighed an H1 Madone to an H1 Emonda, and found the Madone to be 50g heavier than the Emonda. It takes pretty much any off-the-shelf part, and if you can find a Vapor Coat, you're already ahead of the game.
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by Shrike

Been working on the missus bike, still pedals, cassette and brakes to do. 200g left to come off.

6.83kg for the time being though.

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S5 is heavier, but can go sub 7.

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by g32ecs

I think you should concern yourself with the components you're putting on the bike.

Tubulars + top of the line groupset will make something "light" automatically.

Let's face it: aerobikes are pigs (I own one). No matter what light components I put in it, it'll always be heavy unless I dig in my pockets deeper.

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by itsacarr

There is a Garneau Gennix A1 from blacksmith on here that's pretty svelte.

The Scott and FRD are also great options.

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by kode54

g32ecs wrote:Let's face it: aerobikes are pigs (I own one). No matter what light components I put in it, it'll always be heavy unless I dig in my pockets deeper.



yup. my Parlee ESX is pretty heavy. don't even have to weigh it. plus, i have 25mm tires on it with Enve SES 6.7 clinchers. i could probably throw more money at it, but don't see any reason to...or tune it by cutting the seat post shorter and putting tubulars on it.
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- Guru Praemio R Titanium + DA9150 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

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by mile2424

I have seen some light F10 builds, sub 15 lbs. Haven't seen any venge vias below 16, but love the bike.

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by arnoldagdagan

My bet is Trek Madone, leaning on looks and comfort


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by Jhomewood

http://www.neilprydebikes.com/bikes/nazare/

The NazareSL must be very close 920g frame in a L, 180g seat post and 360g Bar/Stem combo. NP are normally pretty accurate to claimed weight and some of the best riding bikes around, they have a really nice feel to them.

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by 53x12

The cable routing on that Nazare just looks lazy and unattractive.
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