My mechanical skills are limited, and I hate spending time adjusting cables and derailleurs, so electrionic shifting is preferred. I am not a fan of SRAM, and Campa's EPS is too expensive, hence Shimano DA Di2.
My long list of candidates include Bianchi Specialissima, BMC Teammachine, Wilier Zero.6, Cannondale SuperSix, Canyon Ultimate CF SLX and Giant Advanced SL 0. The three first are off the short list primarily due to stiff price points, and the SuperSix because after I don't have much faith in the BB30 solution (I have ridden a few Cannondales and it seems their cranks are notorious in terms of making creaking sounds). So that leaves me with the Canyon and the Giant.
The Canyon CF SLX 9.0 comes in a lovely blue gran turismo colour, the price is very attractive, the integrated stem/handlebar solution looks the part, and the bike consistently gets great reviews. However, I am not sure whether the wheels are all that great (Mavic
Cosmic Pro Carbon SL), and it can surely be slimmed down from its 6.7 kilos.
The Giant Advanced SL 0 is not all that sexy in its black design, but it still has a discreet elegance, and the Giant wheelset seems more appealing for "grimpeurs" and can't be worse than the Mavics. A complete DA Di2 groupset also counts favourably, and I imagine the bike is a bit lighter than the Canyon.
What I would really appreciate is if those of you in here who have ridden both bikes, or have ridden one of the bikes extensively, could weigh in with your arguments for and against the bikes.
milesthedog wrote:For the price of those frames, have you considered the AX-Lightness EVO D for sale on Fairwheel? similar geometries, lighter, bb386
The Vial has a more relaxed geo as those 2 bikes! Not endurance like, but more relaxed for sure (at least in my size, L)
I ended up with the Canyon, and after a few rides I can safely say that it is a great bike both in the hills and on the flats. Slightly more forgiving than the SuperSix, but every bit as brilliant to climb with. The wheels seem fine too, although I'd have preferred if Canyon equipped the bike with better climbing wheels.
The bike including two bottle cages from Elite, a pair of Speedplay Ti-pedals and a 120 mm stem with the barfly add-on brings the bike to 7.05 kilos. Chopping the head tube after slamming them stem may save a few grams, though.
I have the shallower Ksyrium Pro Carbon SL and I cannot say enough good things about them. The new hubs are outstanding, the weight is similar or lower then most of the competitive brands, and the braking is as good as carbon gets at present. And you can remove the little yellow stickers. (Don't try to remove the very small white bar code sticker).
A couple of things about those wheels though. First remove the supplied rim tape and inner tubes and replace with your best. You have never seen heavier rim tape, and the inner tube is the thickest, heaviest chunk of rubber ever created - like it was made for a tractor tire.
The second thing, and it pains me to mention it, is that my wheels, while perfectly round and true, arrived with uneven spoke tension. I check every new wheel when it arrives, and all my wheels on a regular basis to make sure spoke tensions are perfect - it's my obsession. Sorting this out was an easy fix but at this level the wheels should be perfect. I am sure it was a rare slip in QC but still not acceptable.
You say your not mechanical but are you musical? just tap each spoke with an allen key. If the sound is the same on all spokes on the same side of a wheel than you are good to go. If you have some flat or sharp notes than take it to a shop and ask them to check. Or better yet, get yourself a tensiometer and sort the wheel out yourself.
wheelsONfire wrote: When we ride disc brakes the whole deal of braking is just like a leaving a fart. It happens and then it's over. Nothing planned and nothing to get nervous for.
Assuming the weather gods are generous in the Alps in July, the bike including the wheels will be put to the ultimate test: Tour du Mont Blanc.
Thanks for your input, Mr. Gib, I will certainly give the wheels some extra attention the next time I put the bike on the mech stand (where I usually limit myself to cleaning, replacing the chain, etc.).
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