Huh? T-Mobile still using Campa wheels???

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Cyco wrote:Another Qn - Why was Ullrich using A Lightweight and a Mavic Comete when Campag make the Bora and Ghibli?


Jan's disc wheel is a Lightweight with Mavic stickers (Mavic Comete has aluminium braking surfaces) The Lightweight disc weighs only 910 grams ore so :shock:

And why did he use Lightweight instead of Mavic....... Lightweight's are lighter :lol:
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asphaltdude wrote:
Cyco wrote:Another Qn - Why was Ullrich using A Lightweight and a Mavic Comete when Campag make the Bora and Ghibli?


Jan's disc wheel is a Lightweight with Mavic stickers (Mavic Comete has aluminium braking surfaces) The Lightweight disc weighs only 910 grams ore so :shock:

Bianchi was using Mavic wheels last year, not Campa.
I don't think that is a Lightweight disk Jan is using. The valve hole is too big, LW discs have a small one (see pic). And iv'e never seen a black one, they are white and cannot be painted due to the material used, so i am told. Although you might be able to put a foil on it, i recon.

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Jan's wheel was from Walser, as was his bike. And Walser's wheels are corima wheels. So it was a corima disc, go figure. IMO he should've used a Mavic, they're so friggin fast - I got one, and after 3 months of nothing but indoor training, I went out to the Southwest (I live in the US) for a race in February and it took me to a 25:55 20K. Well of course, the training had a lot to do with that :D but the Mavic disc sure holds its speed.

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HawkMt210 wrote:Jan's wheel was from Walser, as was his bike. And Walser's wheels are corima wheels. So it was a corima disc, go figure. IMO he should've used a Mavic, they're so friggin fast - I got one, and after 3 months of nothing but indoor training, I went out to the Southwest (I live in the US) for a race in February and it took me to a 25:55 20K. Well of course, the training had a lot to do with that :D but the Mavic disc sure holds its speed.

Ah, you are right, of course.
he can only use the Walser disc as the Walser frame uses a non-standard rear axle (100mm, iirc) along with a narrower BB.

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Hello,

Just to be sure: Telekom did use Hyperions (was able to buy some 2003 specimens with the magenta tubulars still on).

Furthermore: they didn't use bora's. the used wheels only looked like boras but where in fact nucleon hubs and spokes with corima rims. This combination is much stonger (I just bought a pair).

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veldt01 wrote:Hello,

Just to be sure: Telekom did use Hyperions (was able to buy some 2003 specimens with the magenta tubulars still on).

Furthermore: they didn't use bora's. the used wheels only looked like boras but where in fact nucleon hubs and spokes with corima rims. This combination is much stonger (I just bought a pair).


No, in the 2003 TdF Vinokourov DID use a pair of Bora G3's.
(But before the Bora G3 Telekom used special corima's indeed, not the standard Bora's with carbon + alloy rim)
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Okay, gonna give this topic another kick..... what the f*ck are they doing with their wheels at telekom?

Oke... we saw them using Campy wheels (first page), probably some left-overs.

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In Paris-Nice Vino used Mavic proto's...

And now, in the Tour de Suisse....

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Jan winning on new Shimano carbon wheels

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Jan and a team mate on Corima Medium's

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Jan on LightWeight's (16 spoke front!)


Do you still get it? :shock:
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So he uses all of the following: Corima, Lighweight and Shimano??? Must be a new set of LW's because of the gruppo change to Shimano.

By the way, what are the white stickers adjacent to the valves for??

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C-40 wrote:So he uses all of the following: Corima, Lighweight and Shimano??? Must be a new set of LW's because of the gruppo change to Shimano.


It's a new set indeed..... in the 2003 Tour de France Jan used a 20-spoke front wheel, now he's riding a 16-spoke front wheel.
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TdF Stage 7: Corima's

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TdF stage 10: Lightweight's!

And note: In the Tour de Suisse he used a 16 spoke LW up front, but now he's using a 20 spokes front wheel!
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There is an article in my November 2003 Cycle Sport magazine on the TT bikes of the tour.

There is a picture of all the Bianchi TT bikes, all with Kysrium SSC's on them, connected to the trainer for warmup.

How could this be possible? For a Walser to have a Kysrium "in it"?

(I don't have a scanner, but someone else might?)

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danielgillett wrote:There is an article in my November 2003 Cycle Sport magazine on the TT bikes of the tour.

There is a picture of all the Bianchi TT bikes, all with Kysrium SSC's on them, connected to the trainer for warmup.

How could this be possible? For a Walser to have a Kysrium "in it"?

(I don't have a scanner, but someone else might?)



if that´s true, they might be reworked or custom made with skyrium rims and a narrow rear hub.
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The Telekom riders are unhappy with the new Shimano- they don´t wanna use them: not stiff enough...

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tobias wrote:
danielgillett wrote:There is an article in my November 2003 Cycle Sport magazine on the TT bikes of the tour.

There is a picture of all the Bianchi TT bikes, all with Kysrium SSC's on them, connected to the trainer for warmup.

How could this be possible? For a Walser to have a Kysrium "in it"?

(I don't have a scanner, but someone else might?)



if that´s true, they might be reworked or custom made with skyrium rims and a narrow rear hub.


you can order the walser in two versions. the one version is with standart BB and standart rear-wheel. version two is with 100mm rear-wheel-hub and smaller BB. then you have to use the ugly walser-crank. gerolsteiner mainly uses version number one...

version number two is more expensive - of cours :roll:

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