i still use Speedplay. mainly because i like the no look, 2-sided entry. i'm intrigued by the Keywins since the cleats seem to last longer than plastic ones. since i rebuild and repack grease in my Speedplays, i haven't had many issues with failure. the grease injection port never worked for me as i usually make a mess of things and grease not injecting properly, so i typically take the pedals apart and clean them inside and out. one issue that i have to take into account when switching pedal systems is the fact that i have to change them on all my bikes, make cleat adjustments and possibly change the seat height position due to stack height of the cleats and pedals. too lazy to go through that process and cuts into my riding time.
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Independent Fabrication Ti FLW + DA9100 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs
There is two things that put me off them (as i mentioned before):
1. Weight - 224 gm and cant find the weight for the cleats.
Trying to put weight off my build, and now every gm seem that it metter (if i put more weight in the pedals, i'll have to shave that somewhere else, which mean more money spending..)
Trying to get 6800 gm including pedals..
@DarkInstall: What is the actual weight of pedals and cleats (including all the hardware)
2. I ride a Colnago C60 with Campagnolo components, and somehow Shimano does not match on this build
Will u mix Shimano pedlas on Colnago build with Campagnolo?
@Calnago, what pedals do u use on ur Colnago C60 Build?
Cleats about 40g/pair (inc bolts)
Just get these, then save the grams by buying an AX Lightness saddle....!! I'm under 6kg with these pedals so it's not a show stopper!
3Pio wrote:After i find perfect match in Selle Italia SLR Carbonio Flow, no chance to change it
Too bad that Shimanos are 233 gm , but seem there is not possible quality, and weight in same time for normal price
How often is there a product that it so clearly head and shoulders above the others in its category as far as performance, form and reliability as is the Shimano SPD-SL pedal system. Forget all those other concerns and get yourself a pair of DA9000 pedals. You will not regret it.
eric01 wrote:Shimano 9000s for me. Have put thousands of miles on without any issues. Despite this forum being weight weenies, I think the tradeoff of slightly more weight is worth it in exchange for "never have to worry about them"
This is my feeling exactly.
I haven't tried all the pedals, but I have tried a lot of them (most of them) and it is just remarkable how Shimano could make a system that is so bullet-proof and maintenance free.
One more consideration though is that once you go Shimano, the Ultegras are about 99% as solid as the Dura Ace for about 60% of the cost. ....and then the 105s are about 98% of the Ultegras for another cost reduction. Each lower line has just a few grams weight increase.
I have all three, and none of them has ever had any bearing or cleat problems.
First pedals were Suntour (couldn't afford the venerable Time Equipe) followed by many others including Keywin (old model) SPD-R, S-play, Tri-Rig, to name but a few. Lots of float to start off with, now I'm fixed and fixed on SPD-SL.
Any Keywin and SPD-SL user can comment about their walkability?
which one is better to walk on.
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Good news is that they reopened shop with updated Millennium 2 pedals around a year ago. I have one pair of the new version and they are still a great pedal. Not quite as light as the original version, but better in other ways. They are not for everybody, but definitely work a look.
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