Anything better than the caad for an alloy frame? Cinelli?

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sefton
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by sefton

Caad?
Bowman?
Cinelli experience?

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by Mockenrue

Kinesis Aithein should definitely be considered.

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by 11.4

There are some amazing alloy frames out there, including custom frames from Gaulzetti, Zanconato, and so on. But the prices are double or triple what a CAAD12 costs.

If you are comparing stock alloy frames in the CAAD12 price range, you're going to find that there's quite a bit of variation in frame geometry. That may limit your choices. Beyond that, the CAAD12, to be specific, has an idiosyncratic bottom bracket setup that is a bit of a chore if you need different crank arm lengths or want to upgrade your cranks at some point. It's a great frame, a classic, though the -12's come with a 25.4 mm seat post and other minor oddities that you should check on and be ok with.

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A NOS CAAD10 would be the most user friendly - and they do exist..


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Considered a Specialized Allez Sprint?

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by nemeseri

There are two stock framesets very comparable to the caad: specialized allez smartweld and the trek emonda alr. Out of these platforms I would pick based on the intended use and geometry. The allez is long and low, the emonda is more like an endurance frameset. Caad is low, but it is available with shorter reach too.


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Giant TCR SLR

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Canyon Ultimate Al, BMC Team Machine ALR are also worth a mention. IIRC Giant also does a Propel SLR in some regions if you want aero + alloy.
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Nothing beats rose for weight.

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Canyon Ultimate AL. I have a CAAD 10 too but much prefer the Canyon. Geo suits me a little better. Toying with the idea of selling the CAAD10 and getting another Canyon just for the sake of it!

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sefton wrote:
Anything better than the caad for an alloy frame? Cinelli?



No, not really. Only different.

The Caad 10 is exactly as good as the carbon version Supersix Evo, it's just not as compliant. And a bit heavier.

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by martinko

I've got Cinelli Experience 2014 in large (1387g+570g). It replaced my CAAD10 after crashing it and cost me half the CAAD10 price, so I tried it.
http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/the-other ... 2014-25950

It comes with alu/carbon fork though which is heavier and may not be that comfy as a full carbon fork that other frames come with.
Seatstays are more rigid than on CAAD10, probably less forgiving but I do not notice huge difference. I appreciated rigid seatstay since I dented CAAD10 seatstays in crash (but never crashed Cinelli).

What I do not like about Cinelli Experience is its geometry of Large frame. In comparison to medium frames they changed angles of both headtube and seattube. And that affects the handling as well, I think. I needed Large, but if you are lucky and need medium size, it is close to CAAD10 medium geometry, I wouldn't see any problem. Now, I have this frame packed back in the box and ready to sell it, since the geo does not suite me.

There is also Colnago Strada SL if you want to ride Colnago and don't have (don't want to spend) money on a full carbon one :)

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by wingguy

Multebear wrote:
sefton wrote:
Anything better than the caad for an alloy frame? Cinelli?



No, not really. Only different.

The Caad 10 is exactly as good as the carbon version Supersix Evo, it's just not as compliant. And a bit heavier.

So, um, not quite as good then? :P

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