Chain lubricants
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Since switching from Ultegra Di2 to Froce AXS, i have also switched back from waxing my chains to normal oil.
There were two reasons for this:
As far as I know, there arent any quicklinks that are officially rated for multiple uses for AXS. I know, a lot of people simply re-use the regular SRAM quick link, but I´m just too much of a chicken for that.
And the second reason is, that AXS is quite a bit louder than Di2. So a regular lube helps a lot in that regard. (I kind of forgot, just how quiet a drivetrain can be, when using oil based lubes)
So for now im using lube by Peaty`s. But I will definetely try the Silca Synergetic, as it seems to be one of the most advanced oil based lubes. Any other ideas?
There were two reasons for this:
As far as I know, there arent any quicklinks that are officially rated for multiple uses for AXS. I know, a lot of people simply re-use the regular SRAM quick link, but I´m just too much of a chicken for that.
And the second reason is, that AXS is quite a bit louder than Di2. So a regular lube helps a lot in that regard. (I kind of forgot, just how quiet a drivetrain can be, when using oil based lubes)
So for now im using lube by Peaty`s. But I will definetely try the Silca Synergetic, as it seems to be one of the most advanced oil based lubes. Any other ideas?
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Silca SuperSecret drip wax lubeHansZuDemFranz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:47 pmSo for now im using lube by Peaty`s. But I will definetely try the Silca Synergetic, as it seems to be one of the most advanced oil based lubes. Any other ideas?
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Ceramic Speed UFO drip.
You can lean them on the bike with UFO clean.
Clean the chain super well first time. Then you can drip wax (and clean after gunky wet ride) for the rest of chain life.
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I have actually already tried the UFO drip. I even warmed it up to better penetrate the links, but it still got really loud after a couple kms.Hexsense wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 10:20 pmSilca SuperSecret drip wax lubeHansZuDemFranz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:47 pmSo for now im using lube by Peaty`s. But I will definetely try the Silca Synergetic, as it seems to be one of the most advanced oil based lubes. Any other ideas?
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Ceramic Speed UFO drip.
You can lean them on the bike with UFO clean.
Clean the chain super well first time. Then you can drip wax (and clean after gunky wet ride) for the rest of chain life.
The UFO drip tends to get loud indeed, at least louder as compared to the Dynamic Wax Potion.
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And this is everyone’s periodic reminder that unless the loud noise is a squeak, your chain is just fine. The drier the wax formulation, the more raspy it will sound when cross-chained…that has nothing to do with penetration and everything to do with the external wax having ablated off. External wax does nothing for efficiency/lubrication, but it is the only protectant against corrosion.
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This. +1000TobinHatesYou wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:20 amAnd this is everyone’s periodic reminder that unless the loud noise is a squeak, your chain is just fine. The drier the wax formulation, the more raspy it will sound when cross-chained…that has nothing to do with penetration and everything to do with the external wax having ablated off. External wax does nothing for efficiency/lubrication, but it is the only protectant against corrosion.
I tried a brand new chain (fully stripped with Methyl Spirit and Isoprop Alcohol) and the first application for 250km was entirely silent.
Prep work is also very important.
Anyone use a supplement Drip wax in between Wax (melt) applications ?
I am thinking of homebrew a wax base drip for in between a 500km chain wax application with Silca Secret Wax formula.
Any homebrew mix? Care to share ? The formula that evaporates after application. Thank you
I am thinking of homebrew a wax base drip for in between a 500km chain wax application with Silca Secret Wax formula.
Any homebrew mix? Care to share ? The formula that evaporates after application. Thank you
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That Rex stuff is really expensive!! I have used Finish line 1-step this season and i have zero complaints.
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
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Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
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This.
I, for one, don't buy the marketing re wax, or at least not enough to remove my chain, cook it, wax it, etc. I'm a big fan of clean drivetrains, but I just don't believe the wax hype.
I also don't understand how a waxed chain can be both noisy and efficient. Noise is a reflection of friction.
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