New dura-ace R9100
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Agreed... Shimano will do what's best for them. That said, I read an interesting article, or maybe it was even a post by some very knowledgeable person, about the whole 30mm spindle thing and while it is true that they can make it lighter with aluminum etc., there are other properties in play (I think thermal expansion was one property mentioned) that still make steel a very good spindle choice over other alloys, and that the 24mm spindle was pretty much ideal for steel. Having a larger BB shell is beneficial for frame builders however, as there is more real estate down there in a very crowded area to play with joining big tubes etc.
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eaglejackson wrote:IMO, there is zero chance Shimano will adopt the Chris King BB design or something else. Shimano sets standards; they don't adopt others'. That's how 800 lb. gorillas work. No judgment by me whether it's good or bad, it's just how it is.
My speculation is that they will have two cranks, one with and one without power meter. I expect it to be premium priced, just as Dura Ace is. And, given my great respect for Shimano engineering, I expect it will work very well.
Well it's relative what "premium priced" means on the PM market. I'd be surprised if it would be more than Pioneer's DA offering ($1,499).
Some cool info: potentially paired with pedals as well in some form showing pressure etc.... plus speculated pricing
http://www.matosvelo.fr/index.php?post/ ... -en-marche
http://www.matosvelo.fr/index.php?post/ ... -en-marche
The graphic is from the shimano bike fitting system that has been out for a while. See http://bikefitting.com
If you watch the video, you can see the computer display.
https://youtu.be/QKkkc52pQug
If you watch the video, you can see the computer display.
https://youtu.be/QKkkc52pQug
itsacarr wrote:Some cool info: potentially paired with pedals as well in some form showing pressure etc.... plus speculated pricing
http://www.matosvelo.fr/index.php?post/ ... -en-marche
Sorry, but it was an April Fool... even if I hope that all specs will be true, like the price !
Did anyone see this? https://www.facebook.com/notes/john-bra ... 4882063286
Really poor form by Shimano regarding the Velonews article.
Really poor form by Shimano regarding the Velonews article.
hmmmm, not sure they were meant to put this up yet...
https://www.bikebug.com/argon-18-nitrogen-pro-frameset-p-51490.html
https://www.bikebug.com/argon-18-nitrogen-pro-frameset-p-51490.html
mad106 wrote:hmmmm, not sure they were meant to put this up yet...
https://www.bikebug.com/argon-18-nitrogen-pro-frameset-p-51490.html
GTFO
the second video down is even better!!
edit: Looks like new ultegra too
https://www.bikebug.com/argon-18-nitrogen-frameset-p-55512.html
edit: Looks like new ultegra too
https://www.bikebug.com/argon-18-nitrogen-frameset-p-55512.html
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mad106 wrote:MikeyBE wrote:@mad106 take a look at the earlier parts of this thread....
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I've seen, just bringing these photo's to peoples attention. Haven't seen any better yet
It's not a photo, it's an Argon18 render of a generic shimano group. It has nothing to do with the new DA, unfortunately.

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