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Asteroid
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by Asteroid on Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:41 am
AJS914 wrote:Asteroid wrote:A couple on this thread did not like White Lightning. My experience with the wax-based Clean Ride version (over twenty years!) has always been great here in sunny Southern California.
Back in the day, like 25 years ago I used to be a die hard White Lightning user. In the end I quit using it because the wax build-up that always happens. I would just end up with messy, gross derailleur pulleys.
I'm a Rock N Roll gold believer. It is thin and needs to be applied every few rides but I like the cleaning and lubing all in one shot approach. Everything stays clean enough that I'll only do one full bike wash when installing a new chain. I also wipe my bike down after rides so it stays looking clean all the time.
The wax buildup occurs when one does not wipe off the excess on chain, rings, pulleys. Refer to my #3 & #4. Actually, you practice wiping down your bike, so that should avoid the buildup. White Lightning is self-cleaning, similar to Rock Gold, and requires the same frequent application. Maybe I'll switch to Gold, since it looks a little less expensive.
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kzy090
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by kzy090 on Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:33 pm
I have used the Ceramicspeed UFO chain in the past, and was great.
But the squirt lube is much more affordable with a marginal difference.
Wax doesn't catch debris, so that helps, too.
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eurperg
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by eurperg on Thu Aug 23, 2018 4:43 pm
^ There is now a more affordable alternative to CeramicSpeed UFO chain: Rex Race Day Spray. But compared to UFO it also works in rain and a single can gives 2-3 optimisation treatments. And you can use it in MTB’s also and apply it to the cassette. I have heard many MTB racers really praise the product...
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eurperg
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by eurperg on Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:09 pm
uraqt wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:09 pm
..... Looks like it's almost impossible to get Rex in the USA?
I'm not sure about that, but for example r2-bike ships Rex worldwide. I have used Race Day Spray, and it keeps the drivetrain amazingly clean in horrible conditions, check out these pics I took after a ride:
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou on Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:44 am
rasmusic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:48 pm
uraqt wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:09 pm
I think
https://smoovebikelube.com/ is a little better than SQUIRT, not enough to run out and buy but when you run out of SQUIRT ..... Looks like it's almost impossible to get Rex in the USA?
Agreed. The biggest difference is that it lasts longer.
Lasts a bit longer, less viscous when applied, gummier when dry. The gummy bits build up a little more on the drivetrain and get a little blacker. I think Squirt is easier to keep clean if you don't mind lubing nearly twice as often. I think Molten Speed Wax (or homebrew) is even easier if you don't mind dipping 4-5 chains at a time every couple of months.
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eurperg
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by eurperg on Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:20 am
Gearjunkie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:32 am
... but then again, looking at R2's site, 77.5 Euro is a little steep for 56g
Rex RDS is expensive, but still a lot cheaper when you compare it to UFO chain which is 139€ for one time use only. For 77,50 you get three optimisations and you can use your favorite chain, without even removing it from the bike. You have to use RDS together with Rex Domestique chain lube. It does the lubing and RDS is applied on top to protect the lube from getting contaminated, and to reduce friction even more.
UFO drip is not comparable to Race Day Spray, because it is not a coating but just a hard dry wax that leaves the chain quite noisy.
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ryanw
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by ryanw on Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:58 am
I’ve used the lot and currently been running MSW for 6 months. It’s the best out the bunch but f-me it’s effort!
UFO drip was crap, hard to get out the bottle, silly expensive and very hard to clean off.
RnR Gold is the best wet lube I’ve used.
Squirt or RnR Extreme is probably going to be my upcoming winter choice on my commuter / training bike.
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TobinHatesYou
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by TobinHatesYou on Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:56 am
Nor is Squirt a very good lube in wet conditions. It is very water soluble.
My assumption is that since UFO Drip is also quite water soluble and should clean off with just a few wipes from a rag soaked in warm/hot water. Is this not the case?
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Eleven21
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by Eleven21 on Fri Aug 24, 2018 8:18 am
ryanw wrote:
RnR Gold is the best wet lube I’ve used.
Squirt or RnR Extreme is probably going to be my upcoming winter choice on my commuter / training bike.
I’ve tried many different lubes over the years and I totally agree the rock and roll products are my favourite. I use the Gold during dry months and like you, switch to the Extreme lube for wet winter months.