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mpulsiv
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by mpulsiv on Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:02 am
Marin wrote:mpulsiv wrote:China is all about quantity and disposable products.
So how come almost all high-end carbon frames are made there?
This thread is going nowhere. Just slew of personal opinions with little or no knowledge. Where are you getting the information that high-end frames are made in China? Every frame a has sticker on the seat tube with an origin. Most of the frames are made in Taiwan. The country of pioneers in cycling industry. They have universities where you can get a specific degree in the industry. Sure, there are products that made in China with strict supervision and quality control. Consumers pay for the brand name X or brand name Y for this specific reason. Now, if you want to buy Chinese knockoff handlebars from unknown origin, listed by random sellers with no quality control then power to you.
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Marin
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F45
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by F45 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:32 am
nathanong87 wrote:if u are going to list those things, u might as well put seatposts in there. I've seen cheap china seatposts 3t knockoffs and they are just as scary looking.
I bought a Hylix setback post thinking it's a popular brand and I have a 0 setback that seems quality. Cracked it off in the first mile. It broke at the collar. No, it wasn't overtightened.
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PrimO
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by PrimO on Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:08 am
bikergrove wrote:PrimO wrote:I've been using a set of Aliexpress 'Deda presa' carbon bars for the last number of months. Theyre actually superleggera knock offs and not presa's but they have presa decals/markings. They are very comfortable and stiff and I cannot detect any flex when sprinting/climbing. I'm happy with them so far and will continue to use them however I'm very tempted to stick them on my winter bike and get a genuine set of Superleggera's for my good bike as I love the design and comfort of them.
@primo - how are these holding up? I'm still keen to get some carbon bars and will gladly pay a weight " penalty". Surely all carbon bars ( Chinese) can't be garbage?!
They're still going strong, no weakness or problems detected. They weigh 218g so no weight penalty with them either. I'm very pleased with them.
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evan326
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by evan326 on Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:28 pm
F45 wrote:nathanong87 wrote:if u are going to list those things, u might as well put seatposts in there. I've seen cheap china seatposts 3t knockoffs and they are just as scary looking.
I bought a Hylix setback post thinking it's a popular brand and I have a 0 setback that seems quality. Cracked it off in the first mile. It broke at the collar. No, it wasn't overtightened.
Overweight?
I overtightened one of mine, and could ride it cracked for 30 miles after
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evan326
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by evan326 on Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:05 pm
Guess my first one was lucky. I wasn't trying to call you fat btw, I'm about the same weight.
Hope my second one is as good, and I don't screw it up!
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sawyer
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by sawyer on Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:38 pm
How do the people buying this stuff, who agree it is significantly more risky, justify riding it in group rides, meaning they are compromising others' safety?
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Marin
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by Marin on Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:49 pm
sawyer wrote:How do the people buying this stuff, who agree it is significantly more risky, justify riding it in group rides, meaning they are compromising others' safety?
I and people in my club had several crashes - solo, in races and in groups, and all of them were due to rider mistakes or other traffic, and not a single one happened due to faulty equipment.
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inchul
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by inchul on Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:34 pm
Safety is the best.
I would like to think about the Chinese carbon handlebar again.
I do not want to recommend it other than the price merit.
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sawyer
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by sawyer on Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:47 pm
Marin wrote:sawyer wrote:How do the people buying this stuff, who agree it is significantly more risky, justify riding it in group rides, meaning they are compromising others' safety?
I and people in my club had several crashes - solo, in races and in groups, and all of them were due to rider mistakes or other traffic, and not a single one happened due to faulty equipment.
Of course that would be generally true yes, but what many of us agree on here, even some who have bought this stuff, is that the "no-name" products are often an unknown quantity, may well not have passed the same safety standards, and to that extent at least are more risky (this should not be confused with a factual assertion that they are more "dangerous" ... which isn't known).
The question therefore remains valid ... how do those riding such equipment justify increasing the risk to other riders' safety in group rides?
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