Assos apparel questions

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GaBa
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by GaBa

RTW wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:19 am
The Bonka tight and the Habu tight continue. It was the jackets we were discussing. Please go and see and try on the new jackets before writing them off!

The Tiburu short (Equipe Line) continues. As does the Tiburu Equipe Gilet.
A follow up: tried Mille GT winter jacket ultraz yesterday and while i have to admit it is insanely warm it is also a whole lot bulkier than Bonka. Also when sat on the bike in the front the jacket was too loose. Can’t judge how it performs when riding but I’m still not convinced at the moment. Probably superior in very cold weather.

And then there are small details, such as the zipper slider - being metal on Bonka and gum on Mille Ultraz. I have bad experience with gum ones since they tend to break off after time.

ryanw
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by ryanw

I really liked the Mille Winter & Ultraz jackets, however, they’re just too tight on my arms. Didn’t find the body baggie at all, a very aero cut IMO. Much like the Castelli Idro Pro fit.

I’ve ordered a second Mille Evo jacket, Habu tights, Campionissimo bibs and 2.4 SkiNFoil.
Also bought the new NeckPorte.

Safe to say the wife will not be seeing the credit card statement this month!
'16 Cervelo S5 - 6650g
'17 Focus Mares Force 1 - 7,800g

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kode54
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by kode54

sounds great. a century? nice.

yeah, the deals are great..although tights are not available in my size. before finding out the differences between the Habu and Habu Mille tights...i have one of each and like the regular Habu better. they look similar with the exception of the small type that states Mille under the Habu logo on the back straps. oh well.
KCookie wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:54 pm
kode54 wrote:haha.

BTW, how's the recovery going? i just bought another Campionissimo S7 from the outlet store. couldn't pass it up like others here. :D
KCookie wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:07 am
My T-centos were hacked off by the ambulance crew, leaving me rather naked I might add. Will Assos cover those. Lol. Image
Yeah good thanks. Been back at work 4 weeks now. Not really much pain either, so all good. Been riding about 200+km a week so far. Just off out now for a century.
Yes those deals are awesome. My last order of Assos stuff from Pushys is still boxed up. Got way to much now but I just can't resist a bargin.Image

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- AX Lightness Vial EVO D + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Guru Praemio R Titanium + DA9150 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

kode54
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by kode54

@ryanw...

what's your take on the Habu and the Habu Mille tights?
the Mille version seems like a different size but I suppose its because its a more relaxed fit?

edit: I didn't even know I had the Mille version because the type is small and looks similar. I saw your previous reply on pg 20...so not necessary to repeat.
ryanw wrote:
Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:31 pm
Just back from spending £600 on 4 items haha...

Mille Evo jacket
Habu bib tights
HabuMille bib tights
2.4 SkinFoil

Rich, if you don’t make me an Assos ambassador, I’m sticking it all on eBay! With my watts, you should be paying me to wear it :thumbup:
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- AX Lightness Vial EVO D + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Guru Praemio R Titanium + DA9150 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

kode54
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by kode54

duplicate
- AX Lightness Vial EVO D + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Guru Praemio R Titanium + DA9150 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

ryanw
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by ryanw

To reiterate, both have their place. I would wear the HabuMilles in 5-10° and the Habu’s from 5° down.

The Habu’s are of a much more complex construction and have the waffle and fleece type materials, opposed to the cheaper HabuMilles which just have the single layer fleece type material.
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sychen
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by sychen

Took my new champissimo bibs for short spin... All good until I ate asphalt due to some oil left by some trucks.. Front washed out faster than I can say "*f##k*".

Skin lost on fingers, arm, hip, leg..sore hips and ribs.
Bike is good except for hood and maybe Handlebar.
Ripped a bit of my jersey, shoes and somehow no rips on the new Bibs! Just abrasions.. But still good to go. Image

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robertbb
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by robertbb

I bought 2x iJ Bonka jackets, and have ended up returning them.

They get good reviews everywhere, but honestly I felt my Castelli Alpha ROS Jacket is way softer to wear, likely just as warm and actually has a DWR. The Bonka felt "crinkly".

Maybe it's just me. I love Assos skinfoils, arm/leg warmers, headgear... but have not really liked their jerseys, jackets or bibs.
It's ALL about the bike.

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Pierrotdu37
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by Pierrotdu37

hello I've just bought on a "Craiglist alike" here in France a very nice pair of Assos Fugu LL S7 Campionissimo Bibs, really a great piece of kit, lots of engineering, with different materials, shapes. Paid well under half the price on these new bibs (were 430€ RRP back in the days), allegedly worn 3 times by the previous owner. Yet i'ts hard to find any review on the net since they were sold in the early 201x.
Do you know what is the closest actual model in the Assos Range? Bonka? Were rated "Winter Plus" but no mention of this range on their website now...

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The LL.Fugu.7 was an augmented LL.716.6/LL.Bonka.6 (The 716 became the Bonka to make the naming easier to understand, haha). It had heavier materials in the legs and an integrated vest.
Fugu was climarange 7/7 (which explains the .7 in the name you see...), i.e. very cold indeed. I remember the Fugu jacket, which a lot people bought here in Norway, it almost did not breathe they said. I normally use the now discontinued Bonka Cento jacket (climarange 6/7 and later 4/4) with the Sturmprinz as a shell if its super cold, or I put a Falkenzahn gilet between the winter skinfoil and the Bonka Cento jacket.
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Review of the new Ultraz jacket here:

https://road.cc/content/review/251676-a ... ter-jacket

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by Kjetil

Looking to replace my old (and somewhat crash damaged) IJ.Habu.5 jacket. The Mille GT Winter Jacket (Non-Ultras) might be it.
Have any done a fit comparison of the two? I need generous arm lengths on my cycling jackets. My gorilla factor is extreme.
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kookie
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by kookie

Kjetil wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:48 pm
Looking to replace my old (and somewhat crash damaged) IJ.Habu.5 jacket. The Mille GT Winter Jacket (Non-Ultras) might be it.
Have any done a fit comparison of the two? I need generous arm lengths on my cycling jackets. My gorilla factor is extreme.
I have both and just tried the Mille GT Jacket for the first time this past weekend. I found the Mille GT a bit tighter around the chest/arms area when standing normal but once riding on the hoods/drops it's fine. Definitely tighter, so if you have 'big' arms/shoulders maybe try one size up.

I wear the Habu with the 'early winter LS skinfoil' and the 'winter LS skinfoil' with the Mille GT jacket. All of my Assos apparel are size I/M and fit snug but not tight that I can't move freely while riding.
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TonyM
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by TonyM

kookie wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:02 pm
Kjetil wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:48 pm
Looking to replace my old (and somewhat crash damaged) IJ.Habu.5 jacket. The Mille GT Winter Jacket (Non-Ultras) might be it.
Have any done a fit comparison of the two? I need generous arm lengths on my cycling jackets. My gorilla factor is extreme.
I have both and just tried the Mille GT Jacket for the first time this past weekend. I found the Mille GT, a bit tighter around the chest/arms area when standing normal but once riding on the hoods/drops it's fine.

I wear the Habu with the 'early winter LS skinfoil' and the 'winter LS skinfoil' with the Mille GT jacket.
Would you put the Mille GT Winter Jacket (Non-Ultra) between the Habu and the Bonka?

kookie
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by kookie

TonyM wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:06 pm
kookie wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:02 pm
Kjetil wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:48 pm
Looking to replace my old (and somewhat crash damaged) IJ.Habu.5 jacket. The Mille GT Winter Jacket (Non-Ultras) might be it.
Have any done a fit comparison of the two? I need generous arm lengths on my cycling jackets. My gorilla factor is extreme.
I have both and just tried the Mille GT Jacket for the first time this past weekend. I found the Mille GT, a bit tighter around the chest/arms area when standing normal but once riding on the hoods/drops it's fine.

I wear the Habu with the 'early winter LS skinfoil' and the 'winter LS skinfoil' with the Mille GT jacket.
Would you put the Mille GT Winter Jacket (Non-Ultra) between the Habu and the Bonka?
Never tried the Bonka but from what I've read in this forum, I would say Yes, it would be in between Habu and Bonka. I guess it would also depend on which skinfoil you wear.

Just feeling the material of both with my fingers, the Mille GT has 'more fleece like material' in the chest/arm area so I would assume it would be warmer and block the wind better.

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