2016 Venge

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53x12
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by 53x12

mile2424 wrote:starting to look more and more like a shiv tt with speed concept integration and drop bars.

I live in the bay area and I saw what I think was Chris D'Aluisio riding an unmarked black bike a few weeks ago in Santa Cruz. I was in a car on a backroad, and saw him stop at a stop sign, before coming past my car. I am thinking this could have been the venge but I guess we will find out soon. I didn't get a great look at it, all I noticed was that the downtube had an interesting or weird cutout in it, almost like a Wilier cento crono. Can't wait to see what the next gen looks like.



Well from the picture it sounds like your description. Unless my eyes are deceiving me. Looks like there would be a "weird and interesting" cutout in the downtube to correspond with the fork.

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by joepac

Martin.dk wrote:I like approach of Canyon and Cervelo: as aero as possible with the use of standard components and traditional brake placement.


/Martin


Plus the Canyon is sub 1000g and barely, just barely, slower than the s5 in the wind tunnel. Anybody for an over/under on the watts saved by all the pain in the @$$ proprietary components as whole over shimano direct mount and aerobars without hidden cables? Dibs on 2 watts at 70 kph.

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by NiFTY

Yeah I can't imagine hidden brakes save much at all. That said I think they look cool and I got them on my TT bike for that reason.
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Hydraulic rim brake
US 20140265222 A1

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https://www.google.com.tw/patents/US20140265222
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by spdntrxi

that would explain the odd brake locations

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Bicycle with aerodynamic upper head tube
US 20140265228 A1


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https://www.google.com.tw/patents/US20140265228
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by JasperGr

That looks Nice!

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by mile2424

So that explains the bike I saw D'aluisio riding. I guess the question with the real photo is whether that bike features the aero frame and the rim brakes which it certainly looks like. Where does this put the brakes on the non hydraulic rim version?

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by newforker

mile2424 wrote:So that explains the bike I saw D'aluisio riding. I guess the question with the real photo is whether that bike features the aero frame and the rim brakes which it certainly looks like. Where does this put the brakes on the non hydraulic rim version?


Re: Non-hydraulic rim version brakes would be in the same position. As far as I can tell, in the picture the gentleman is using 9070 STI's and not R785 STI's.

Again, as far as I can tell...

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by ichobi

I hope that brake doesn't get in production version. Looks rather clunky no?

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by wheelsONfire

ichobi wrote:I hope that brake doesn't get in production version. Looks rather clunky no?


Why file pattents for the sake of not using them?
This is sales propaganda, soon you'll see that this bike will change the world and if you buy it, you will never have a bad day again :D
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by tinozee

Ew, these fugly hydro rim brakes seem obsolete before they even come out.

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by spartan

hmmmm trek madone engineers must be having a good laugh if this is what spec will release in june....


this is worse then the clown wheels roval introduce a couple a years ago

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by joepac

spartan wrote:hmmmm trek madone engineers must be having a good laugh if this is what spec will release in june....


this is worse then the clown wheels roval introduce a couple a years ago

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There is a lot of ugly, gimmicky bull$h!t on the Trek as well. As ugly as the Trek is (and considering that it looks a lot like an obese Venge) those wheels would go perfectly on it :lol: . Between this, the center pull brakes on the new Madone, and Felt, BMC, and the new Scott Foil all using an annoying BB mounted rear brake my future options for aero road bikes are dwindling :( . I hope this trend of sacrificing serviceability and real world performance for such minor aero "gains" does not become the "future" of aero road bikes :roll: . Hopefully Cervelo and Canyon don't end up falling prey to this and stick to the use of normal components. The only way that this could be advantageous is if Spec have considered the impending disc brake integration and this system somehow allows an easy conversion... Not holding my breath on that as it would actually make sense :roll:
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newforker wrote:
mile2424 wrote:So that explains the bike I saw D'aluisio riding. I guess the question with the real photo is whether that bike features the aero frame and the rim brakes which it certainly looks like. Where does this put the brakes on the non hydraulic rim version?


Re: Non-hydraulic rim version brakes would be in the same position. As far as I can tell, in the picture the gentleman is using 9070 STI's and not R785 STI's.

Again, as far as I can tell...



normal brakes levers with hydraulic brakes. D.Zabriskie 2012 S5

http://road.cc/content/news/61275-team- ... road-bikes

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