I've only used it twice and I like it more than my Di2 (cavaet: I did not program my Di2 shifting speed). I'm glad you can adjust the reach since I have shorter fingers.
I really appreciate the hood shape on the new 105 vs the 5700 iteration.
fromtrektocolnago wrote:Price jump from 105 to Ultegra is fairly small, not so when comparing Ultegra to Dura Ace. For me the price performance is easy to justify on Ultegra, but much harder on Dura Ace. I'd do the Ultegra in a hearts beat.
Rick wrote:But, yes, each step up is slightly lighter and slightly better alloys and heat treatments so they give better longevity. They diabolically make each step just a little better and a little more expensive so we all end up overbuying and the group becomes obsolete long before it ever actually wears out.
Is it "worth it " ? I'm a sucker as much as anyone else. Just enjoy what you decide upon, because I am sure it will be good and provide years of great functionality.
So much truth in that. I will say I felt a big difference going from Ultegra 6700 to Dura Ace 7900. As for 105 I have not ridden it since 1991.
5800 105 looks really amazing with all of the features from DA 9000. Anybody got any more experience with the group so far?
Reading what I can find it more a question about durability than function and weight of course. I still think spending money on a nice wheelset for the bike is the way to go first. Worth noting the Grade X comes with Ultegra shifters and brakes.
F45 wrote:Rick wrote:
But, yes, each step up is slightly lighter and slightly better alloys and heat treatments so they give better longevity. They diabolically make each step just a little better and a little more expensive so we all end up overbuying and the group becomes obsolete long before it ever actually wears out.
Are you sure about that? 6800 is cheaper than 6700. 5800 is the same price as 5700.
Good point, I should have said "generally", because market pressures also influence prices as time goes on.
My advice is to go with frame, go with the 105. As parts wear down -- or you see really good sale prices -- upgrade over time. Tinkering and tuning is part of the fun right?
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İMHO Shimano has done a really good job with the 105 5800 set.
The shifting has definitely been much improved compared with 6700, Front shifting being the most significant improvement. The rear shifts much easier too with up to 3 gear changes in one swoop.
Us mortals really shouldn't need much more than 5800.
The only thing that could trump it would be Di2.
You won't regret buying 5800, if you want to bling it out i'd suggest you to use an 6800 crank.
Or save your money for a future Di2 purchase
The price difference with the 5800 group is only E120,- or so, but you will get some of that value in return because the Ultegra parts will wear a little less.
Even in (professional) races I see a lot of Ultegra 6800 around ...
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