11-28 11spd Campagnolo cassette available?

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RedRacer
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by RedRacer

I love my 11spd Super Record but the 12-27 range leaves a bit to be desired. Shimano riders have it good with the available 11-28!

Does anyone make a light weight 11-28 cassette that has shifting performance on par with the genuine Campagnolo cassette?

LionelB
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by LionelB

campy makes a 11-27

RedRacer
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by RedRacer

LionelB wrote:campy makes a 11-27


I don't think so, at least not in the steel + Ti version?? I only see 12-27...

http://www.campagnolo.com/WW/en/Compone ... _sprockets

mannymerc
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by mannymerc

they make an 11-27 chorus to super record.

RedRacer
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by RedRacer

mannymerc wrote:they make an 11-27 chorus to super record.


I am searching for an 11-28. That said I don't see the 11-27 Super Record listed on their website in the link above.

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by boysa

11-27 or 12-29.
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kode54
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by kode54

you can opt to get a custom 11-29 SR cassette. i accidentally bought one, because the seller thought it was a 12-27.
- AX Lightness Vial EVO D + DA9150 + Enve SES 3.4 carbon hubs
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Independent Fabrication Ti FLW + DA9100 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

RussellS
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by RussellS

Its been a few years since I worked on my 9 and 10 speed Campagnolo cassettes. I have too many bikes so its several years before the bikes need an overhaul. But from memory I think the first cog is loose, and the cassette is secured with a separate thread in locking cover cap. So you should be able to take the 12-29 11 speed cassette, you purchase it, replace the first 12 cog with the 11 cog and locking cap from your current cassette, and end up with a 11-29 11 speed cassette. The first cogs will be 11-13 instead of 12-13. But I don't think having a small jump in the first cogs will matter. If you're using the 11 cog then you are going down a cliff and a 2 tooth jump from 11 to 13 won't make any difference. Shifting should be fine from the 11 to 13. Not a meaningful difference compared to the 12-13 shift. I am positive I have read on the internet cycling websites about pro team mechanics mixing up cassettes and ending up with an 11-29 cassette for the pro riders in the mountains. This may have been back in the 10 speed days but it should work with 11 speed cassettes too. 100% sure I have read about this occurring with pro teams. An 11-29 cassette should work just as well as the 11-28 you want.

kode54
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by kode54

on the 11-29 cassette i have...the last set of cogs are different from the 11-25 that i have. the difference from 11-13 will be greater than the larger cogs jumping 2 teeth at a time.
- AX Lightness Vial EVO D + DA9150 + Enve SES 3.4 carbon hubs
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Independent Fabrication Ti FLW + DA9100 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

kode54
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by kode54

actually, you can get the last 3 cogs as a 23-26-29...and just replace that cluster. saw some on eBay for around $63.
- AX Lightness Vial EVO D + DA9150 + Enve SES 3.4 carbon hubs
- Parlee Altum + DA9150 + Enve SES 4.5 carbon hubs
- Parlee ESX + DA9150 + THM SRM PM + Enve SES 6.7 CK hubs
- Independent Fabrication Ti FLW + DA9100 + Enve 3.4 CK hubs

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by prebsy

I know it's a sin but I run Shimano chains and cassettes on multiple campy 11 groups with fantastic results and you better believe the 11-28 is my favorite thing in this world =)

Seriously what is the point of having a 28t to get up the hill if you don't have the 11t to go back down?

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by Denavelo

I've been having this debate with friends for months. Do we really feel the difference from an 11 to a 12 on a descent?
I mean, I don't whatsoever. I used to eat the 11t fruit, but it doesn't really matter to me anymore.
I have a Campy 12-29 and 12-27 combo. All the gearing I need.
I was so bent on SR cassettes, but the teeth wear fast and you're only shaving a few grams over durability with the Chorus cassette.
12-29 for life with 50/34 or 52/36. MONEY!
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by mjduct

I"M in love with the 52/36 combined with a 12-27 in the back...

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by 12x23

kode54 wrote:actually, you can get the last 3 cogs as a 23-26-29...and just replace that cluster. saw some on eBay for around $63.


I have the first year Super Record 11sp. Seems I was reading somewhere some adjustment was required for this generation r.der. to accomodate a 29t cog. Anyone here know if so, and if so, what changes are required?

11x29 and 50/34 would be perfect for 59 yr old legs on Hogpen Gap next month! (Been a few years since I was really a 12x23 lol).

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by 12x23

kode54 wrote:actually, you can get the last 3 cogs as a 23-26-29...and just replace that cluster. saw some on eBay for around $63.


I have the first year Super Record 11sp. Seems I was reading somewhere some adjustment was required for this generation r.der. to accomodate a 29t cog. Anyone here know if so, and if so, what changes are required?

11x29 and 50/34 would be perfect for 59 yr old legs on Hogpen Gap next month! (Been a few years since I was really a 12x23 lol).

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