funny or naughty? I think someone at Pinarello will be looking for a new job soon!! Lolmicky wrote:And "fotto" is quite a funny word in italian.
The all new Pinarello Dogma F8...
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fifty3 wrote:really don't think S5 and R5 are on the same level as RCA
Price wise you are right. In terms of how team riders will perform on them however
Nothing like a new Dogma to have the usual suspects foaming at the mouth about unnecessary this and that and terrible weight penalties.
Meanwhile they keep selling worldwide and winning Grand Tours.
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hmmm. so lighter than the previous boat anchors. but still not a 'normal person' frame size IMO. overpriced/overmarketed. still not that keen...
Pinarellos model is to pile on enough carbon to maximize ride quality, then mislead about mass. They're good bikes but it's too bad they can't just be honest about it.
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As much as I loved my FPX, I have not been able to to stomach the Dogma's ever since they went carbon. I somewhat knew that it would come down to that on the evolutionary platform within the cycling world but not sure what to make of the new F8.
I understand that the squiggly forks and seatstays were not everybodys cup of tea.. but it is a trademake that made Pinarello what it is today...so to remove that trademark would be like debadging a prestigous Louis Vuitton hadbag.. Others would know that it was still a Louis Vuitton, however it just wouldn't be the same.. thats my take on the F8.
Not to mention the bowl legged fork... Hmmmm...
I understand that the squiggly forks and seatstays were not everybodys cup of tea.. but it is a trademake that made Pinarello what it is today...so to remove that trademark would be like debadging a prestigous Louis Vuitton hadbag.. Others would know that it was still a Louis Vuitton, however it just wouldn't be the same.. thats my take on the F8.
Not to mention the bowl legged fork... Hmmmm...
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don't like it personally, the trend to make road bikes look like TT bikes does nothing for me.
Sure it would be great to ride though, and I do think it's an improvement on the wavy legged Dogma
Sure it would be great to ride though, and I do think it's an improvement on the wavy legged Dogma
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Lame review.
I'm waiting for bikesnobnyc's review. I want to know whether the new Dogma handles corners like a prostitute, etc.
Bogan wrote:The similarities between the F8 and the Willier aren't exactly overwhelming. Both fine frames. Have a fondness for Willier lines.
It's the combination of the arched top tube and the seat stays meeting the seat tube 2/3's the way up that made me think of the Wilier.
The BMC TMR01 has the seat stay/seat tube thing too, but without the arched top tube.
I don't like the arched top tube because of the reduced clearance. My Cento SR1 has a Look-695-like top tube, which I much prefer.
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