Cannondale Synapse with Specialized crank!(update 28/4/08)

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Well, my Synapse frame arrived today, size 53cm and weighs 1079 grams naked, not the lightest carbon frame around, but it sure is sweet.Haven't really decided how to build yet, As I got it cheap I'd planned to use it as a training bike that would be a little more comfortable than my CAAD7's over long distance, but I'm torn as I think it is actually lighter than my Weenie CAAD7? But on the other hand, my Weenie bike hardly ever see's the light of day and I want to use this! Anyhows I've got a set of proper alloy SI cranks to go on rather than the Carbon ones that are usually stock on these frames, and the other parts of a non Weenie build would still come up lightish(Dura Ace 9 gearset,Arionne,Deda Newton bar/stem,Speedplays,Look HSC4,1st generation Kysriums for winter riding,Orion 2's for better weather)Anyway, thought I'd share it with you.

I am looking for a decent quality 31.6 seatpin to fit it,over 300mm with decent layback if anyone has one? :shock: :shock:
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Thanks mate, but it needs to have layback.
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I would suggest an AX Daedalus, but AX seem to be having difficulty in making my 31.6 in 350mm. :evil: I was hoping to get it this month....
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Ahh, yeahh. Sweet frame, maybe the lightest dale to date? Geometry is different from the caad frames, looks like. Definitely post a photo of the build with the alu-Si cranks. Never seen a synapse with those. And weight aside, I think the carbon-Si cranks are hideous.

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peterb_bt wrote:but AX seem to be having difficulty in making my 31.6 in 350mm. :evil:

In fact AX doesn't offer the Daedalus in L3 (which is 350mm).
It is currently being discussed with Axel if they will build one (post) as custom version on special order.
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pk0r wrote:
peterb_bt wrote:but AX seem to be having difficulty in making my 31.6 in 350mm. :evil:

In fact AX doesn't offer the Daedalus in L3 (which is 350mm).
It is currently being discussed with Axel if they will build one (post) as custom version on special order.


Funnily enough that is my order (hopefully) :shock:
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ElDuderino wrote:Ahh, yeahh. Sweet frame, maybe the lightest dale to date? Geometry is different from the caad frames, looks like. Definitely post a photo of the build with the alu-Si cranks. Never seen a synapse with those. And weight aside, I think the carbon-Si cranks are hideous.


hideous? really? i guess beauty is in the eye.

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The weave of the cranks matches the frame nicely though.
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I've got the carbon cranks on my winter bike, I wouldnt say they were hideous, but they are disappointingly heavy compared to the alloy SI cranks. Synblack, is that your Synapse in the picture?any feedback from riding you'd like to share?is it a stock build?
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CAADHEAD wrote:I've got the carbon cranks on my winter bike, I wouldnt say they were hideous, but they are disappointingly heavy compared to the alloy SI cranks. Synblack, is that your Synapse in the picture?any feedback from riding you'd like to share?is it a stock build?


yes, it's mine. it's a carbon 2, 58cm (ultegra/see connondale for exact specs). i bought it last october & have about 1,500 miles on it so far. i went from a cannondale multisport 2000 which beat me to death on longer rides to a comfortable smooth ride on the synapse. its plenty sporty even though it isnt considered a racer. feels stiff on the sprint, carves corners well, climbs well, and decends without issues. your going to love it.

while its not exactly a weight weenie, it's pretty light. i changed the handle bars to fsa k-wings for comfort, the tires from conti to michelin pro2 race, king TI bottle cages, a cateye mity 8 with an ITM carbon mount, & speedplay x2 pedals. i weighed it at the bike shop with those changes & it came in at 17lbs 6oz. theres plenty of room to go lighter if i so desire.

recently i switched out the wheelset (ksyrium elites) for zipp 404 clinchers and replaced the mavic skewers for salsa ti. i dropped a few grams there but im still waiting on a bike scale i ordered to see exactly what difference that made.

anyway, heres a pic as it sits now.

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Synblack, I stand corrected. They're pretty cranks, but it's just a bummer when something is improved aesthetically, while taking a hit in performance. That's what's hideous (though that's a strong adjective, i realize...) to me. I was stoked when I heard they were making a Si carbon crank, but like most, was disappointed with the weight. Caadhead...what is the weight difference between the alu and carbon models?

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Here is a Tour test of the Cannondale Synapse from issue 9 2005
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Here is a description of how the tests are done:
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Elduderino, I can't remember the exact weight difference,but I think its around 100 grams, shocking when carbon is considered so much lighter. I 'd love Cannondale to develop their own in house carbon SI cranks,surely they'd be lighter? Thanks for the insight into your Synapse synblack, thats a sweet looking machine, I cant wait to get mine built up, I'm really lookong forward to taking it away to training camp in Majorca at the begining of March, I'm hoping its extra comfort will help me through the experience as I'm not very fit at the moment!
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CAADHEAD wrote:Elduderino, I can't remember the exact weight difference,but I think its around 100 grams, shocking when carbon is considered so much lighter. I 'd love Cannondale to develop their own in house carbon SI cranks,surely they'd be lighter?


I'm thinking that C'dale specced the cranks that way, hoping not to be "too light" so as not to have reliability problems. It wouldn't do to get a bad rep on a new component - like a crankset being easily broken. Better to deal with a little weight than the unsavory options...for now anyway.

BTW - For me, the SI's are aesthetically OK. Much easier on the eyes than the friggin' ugly DA 10's, I must say.

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