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As it is now "Sram red cassette" is a bit vague about what you're actually asking.
It seems Kulivontot has the luck he lives in a mountainous area. Where i live, the biggest climb is 40 meters. I promise you, the 11 on my RED cassette sees no use. I'd rather see Sram makes cassette options with a 12 and maybe even bigger. As long as they put a 16 in it everybody is a winner.
I'm using Red cassettes because they don't eat my freehub body, because they are light and because they actually shift right.
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FWIW, a friend of mine runs red with a 50/36 and 12/27, no issues.
Can't tell you if its loud or not, as i don't know how loud a standard red driveline is.
I am running a 28 and a 32 cassette with the Wifli derailleur. They work fine and aren't "too noisy"; or at least they are not significantly different than my 11-23.
I think they are the PG-1070 version.
Why in the world would anybody ever prefer a 12T to 11T? I've never heard anybody complain about having too hard of a gear while going downhill, but I've definitely had guys get dropped because of the 53x12.
I don't know about that. I have been riding a lot of years in Utah, with pretty steep mountains, and I have been dropped lots of times because I felt like I didn't have low enough gears, but I don't think I've ever been dropped on a descent or because I didn't have tall enough gears. It seems like I can always get another 3% on cadence when absolutely needed, and when going that fast the draft tends to suck you along pretty good. And I use I 50 x 12.
I think I got "dangerously" close to spun out and dropped once last year, but it is so rare, that is why I noticed it!
But I am an amateur (Cat 3) so maybe higher cats or pros need them.
I used to live in Flanders which has some nice hills. I attacked all of those with my 53/42 & 12-23 gearing. But that was back in the days when I was racing.
Now that I live in a very flat region and have rheumatoid arthritis I have moved to a 50/34 & 14-25 gearing. If I ever wear out the 50, I'll probably replace it with a 48...
So I definately understand the OP need for a more 'easy' gearing.
Rick wrote: I don't think I've ever been dropped on a descent or because I didn't have tall enough gears. It seems like I can always get another 3% on cadence when absolutely needed, and when going that fast the draft tends to suck you along pretty good. And I use I 50 x 12.
I use 50x12 most of the time. Most of the descents I do are technical enough that speed is determined by descending skill. On the ones where drafting is useful, I can spin it fast enough for long enough to get a wheel.
I have done a few races where 50x12 isn't enough. One has a ~5 mile section of slight down hill with a stiff tail wind. Drafting isn't much help and I can't spin 120 rpm for that long. If the wind is strong 50x11 is difficult.
Another has very long straight fast descents. On the less steep parts I want a high gear to get in the draft.
Leaving off the 11t means less of a gap elsewhere. Usually it's a 16t. Without it there's a large gap between the 15t and 17t which can be annoying.
But everyone has different needs and wants, which is why they make more than one cassette.
I use DA and Ultegra cassettes on my Sram bike. They shift better, run quieter and last longer than 1070 cassettes.
Honestly, how many people race on the road and are like "Ugh, this freaking 11T?"
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