Best of the bests - which groupset from the last 20years

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
myndog
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by myndog

Ultegra 6600. Works like a charm :))

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drotos
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by drotos

I like downtube shifters, but nowdays I need STI/brakeshifters for racing.

I prefer the 8spd groupset (74xx) if we are talking about Shimano. I hate the octalink, so I skipped the 7700 series.

I don't like the shape of the 8spd/early 9spd Campa brifters... so if I choose Campy, I'd go with 9/10spd. (Veloce? Chorus? Record? I know the Campy line, but don't know the REAL differences.)

And what about the new SRAM stuff? For example, I'm interested in Force 22...

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Rick
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by Rick

If it is a retro build to preserve some historical elegance, then probably one of the Campy groups.

If you just want what really shifted the smoothest and best: DA 7800

But 7800 is not all that "retro". I am riding it right now on my winter bike: a Look KG76

RussellS
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by RussellS

drotos wrote:I don't like the shape of the 8spd/early 9spd Campa brifters... so if I choose Campy, I'd go with 9/10spd. (Veloce? Chorus? Record? I know the Campy line, but don't know the REAL differences.)


In 1998 with Record and Chorus 9 speed they started the round knob on top Ergo levers. Before that the Ergo levers had pointy tops. Ergo has had this round knob on top shape ever since. I have Veloce, Chorus, Record Ergo shifters. They all shift well. No difference. For ego, weight, appearance, get Record-Chorus-Athena-Centaur-Veloce-Mirage. But for functionality, it makes no difference which you choose.

drotos
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by drotos

RussellS wrote:For ego, weight, appearance, get Record-Chorus-Athena-Centaur-Veloce-Mirage. But for functionality, it makes no difference which you choose.


I'd prefer 10spd... What's the difference between the older 10spd Record/Chorus? And the new Centaur/Veloce? Older Chorus or newer Centaur...?

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jmilliron
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by jmilliron

wassertreter wrote:Ugly maybe, but my 6600 shifted unbelievably smoothly.


Yup. Ugly and heavy but comfortable, reliable and shifting was really fantastic. 6600 was good stuff.
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mm1
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by mm1

The Mavic SSC groupset that Kelly rode (before they introduced that awful flying saucer chainset) pictures here: http://hilarystone.com/groupsets.html. Campag knock-off (wasn't everything back then), but quality sealed bearings, good finish and serviceability.

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by bm0p700f

DA7403 is perfect. so is record 10 speed.

wickedwheels
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by wickedwheels

Easy. Campy Chorus 10 speed alloy.
Great feel!

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Calnago
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by Calnago

"Very late 2010" is 2011. Like my 2007 car, which I actually took delivery of in March of 2006. Lol
It's an easy check however, to see which chainrings it has. Just something to keep in mind should he be looking that way. And the stiffer spring in the rear derailleur was a "running change"... I don't think they even created a new part number for it.
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dvincere
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by dvincere

Stolichnaya wrote:Showing my age, I have to vote definitively for early 90's Record or Chorus 8-speed grouppos. They never failed.


I've done two seasons of cyclocross on a record and chorus 8 speed mix and it hasn't failed me once yet. It's easily my favorite groupset out of all my bikes.

XCProMD
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by XCProMD

Early Record ErgoPowers with the solid forged brake lever and aluminum body are just unbeatable if it's class we're talking about. Something like that just won't ever happen again. 1992 Record was aluminum porn at its best.

A Superbe Pro with Command Shifters wouldn't hurt either. Or a 1992 Mavic SSC. Or even a 1993 Mavic ZAP.

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by mike

Campy c record century. Beautiful, rare, works like a charm

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