Since I run EPS, I have the spindle protector installed inside between the 2 cups to protect the wires from the rotating spindle.
I am about to fit the new V2 internal battery and need to remove the cups in order to gain access to the wires to remove the external battery and install the internal battery.
Ordinarily, without the spindle protector fitted, you would just pop the cups out using a splayed headset cup removal tool. However, because of the sleeve, the tool will not splay out to engage the cups.
Any ideas on how to remove the cups by any other method?
Namely that the protective spindle sleeve is narrower internally than the cup and there is nothing for the puller to get purchase on.
I might have to destroy the sleeve somehow. Then either method will work. I was trying to avoid that though.
Usually, I'm able to figure something out, but this one kind of has me stumped, so was wondering if anyone has got some good ideas. The bearing puller doesn't work, especially if the cups have been loctited in, as you can't get the tapered puller edge past the bearing lip in the cups. Inserting a cutting disk inside and destroying the plastic sleeve seems like a barbaric way to get the sleeve out of the way and you'd also risk cutting the EPS wiring in the process.
This one's got me stymied I'm afraid. Probalby wont' build it up till next week, so no big hurry. Ideas? Experiences?
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On that note, it is possible to dislodge the sleeve to one side and then you will have narrow access for manipulating EPS wires. The head of a spoke is a useful tool to catch EPS wires with.
I went with a Praxis conversion and I never looked back.
@Miller: I did some measuring with cups and sleeve, and when the cups flanges are exactly 86.5mm apart, as they would be when fully pressed in, the sleeve is fully inserted in the drive side cup (about 5mm), and far enough inside the NDS cup (about 3mm), that I don't know how you would dislodge it. And even if you did, just to get at the wires (can't imagine that task), how would you get it back in place. Destroying the sleeve would seem ok if it would just dissolve away inside, but I can't see where it's pieces would go that wouldn't get in the way of using the proper tool to get the cups out.
@Butcher: Yes, something like a Praxis solution is possible, but I do really like the fit of the Campy cups and also the aesthetics of them. I have never had an issue with them properly installed. But curious, how did you go about "cutting them out". Did you just put a hacksaw blade through the bottom bracket and have at it, until it was weak enough to break and remove without touching the shell?
Thanks for the responses so far guys. But I'm still in search of a more elegant solution going forward, as I'm sure others might be, or will be someday.
Graeme!!! Calling Graeme... what do the pros do for their installs? I wouldn't be surprised if they just leave the sleeve out altogether and just tape up the wires inside the shell actually and out of the way of the spindle. That's what I might end up doing if I can figure out how to do it so that they stay put and don't come loose.
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I can’t help with the sleeve removal unfortunately, but for sticking the cables somewhere out of the way a blog of silicone sealant should do the trick permanently and be more or less removable if requiredCalnago wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:17 pmI wouldn't be surprised if they just leave the sleeve out altogether and just tape up the wires inside the shell actually and out of the way of the spindle. That's what I might end up doing if I can figure out how to do it so that they stay put and don't come loose.
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