AX Lightness Vial EVO

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kode54
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by kode54

the fit is tight with 25mm up front. rear is okay. running Schwalbe Ones.
- Factor 02 VAM Disc + DA9170 + Enve 4.5AR CK CL hubs
- Moots Vamoots Disc RSL Titanium + DA9170 + Enve 3.4AR CK CL hubs
- Factor LS Disc + DA9170 + Enve G23 CK CL hubs
- Allied Able + DA9170 + Enve G27 CK CL hubs --> outgoing

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wheelsONfire
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I would like to ask all of you who own Vial EVO (D).
Imagine you'd buy an aero bike or frameset, what would you look for and why?
What would you rid of your list and why?
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

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wheelsONfire
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kode54 wrote:the fit is tight with 25mm up front. rear is okay. running Schwalbe Ones.


Aha, you use clincher version i understand.
No wonder it's tight with those wide clincher rims.

Tub version is 22-24-26-28.
I run 24mm tubs and it's not a problem at all (rim 26mm).
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

kode54
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by kode54

wheelsONfire wrote:I would like to ask all of you who own Vial EVO (D).
Imagine you'd buy an aero bike or frameset, what would you look for and why?
What would you rid of your list and why?


with the Enve SES 4.5...its actually not too bad. feels better at speed than the Enve SES 3.4. anything over 20mph.
- Factor 02 VAM Disc + DA9170 + Enve 4.5AR CK CL hubs
- Moots Vamoots Disc RSL Titanium + DA9170 + Enve 3.4AR CK CL hubs
- Factor LS Disc + DA9170 + Enve G23 CK CL hubs
- Allied Able + DA9170 + Enve G27 CK CL hubs --> outgoing

AZR3
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by AZR3

Anything extra needed to run a Rotor 3D+ on this?

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wheelsONfire
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AZR3 wrote:Anything extra needed to run a Rotor 3D+ on this?


2*2.5mm spacers, one on each side.
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

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wheelsONfire
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Any one of you guys running EPS on your Vial EVO?
Bikes:

Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2018.12.21)
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=156137
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D

tharmor
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by tharmor

BB standards are, for some reason, very difficult for me to wrap my mind around. I currently run a rotor crank on my '09 Cervelo RS which is BSA. If I were to buy the Evo D and swap my stuff over, would I only need to worry about getting the correct BSA to BB386 adapter, or is it way more complicated than that?

Cheers.

jooo
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by jooo

24mm spindle or 30mm spindle?

tharmor
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by tharmor

I genuinely have no idea, and that frustrates me to no end. How would I check that?

jooo
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by jooo

Well basically, is it a 3D or 3D+?

Is your BB actually a Rotor product? It will likely say BSA24 or BSA30 on it.

eric01
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by eric01

Does your crank say 3D+ or 3D30 on it? If yes, its 30mm. If no, its 24mm.

What kind of bottom bracket are you running? If its anything other than a Rotor (e.g. shimano bottom bracket) then it will be 24mm. Rotor makes both a 24mm bb and a special one that lets you run Rotors 30mm cranks on a threaded shell.

Or you could just take it out and measure with some calipers....
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tharmor
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by tharmor

The BB is made by Rotor as well, and the model is the SABB BSA Road L. It doesn't list the spindle length, but from what I have seen around the internet it would appear to be a 24mm. The BSA 30mm say on the BB itself, but the 24's don't from what I've seen.

So let's assume that this is the case - What does this mean for adapting it to the Vial Evo's standard of BB386?

Many thanks BTW

beeatnik
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by beeatnik

tharmor wrote:BB standards are, for some reason, very difficult for me to wrap my mind around. I currently run a rotor crank on my '09 Cervelo RS which is BSA. If I were to buy the Evo D and swap my stuff over, would I only need to worry about getting the correct BSA to BB386 adapter, or is it way more complicated than that?

Cheers.


Rotor doesn't make a 24mm to 386 bottom bracket. They have a BB which allows you to install cranks w/ a 24mm spindle on a PF30 frame (68mm BB shell).

http://www.rotorbike.com/media/files/20 ... 521655.pdf

IIRC, the Vial EVO cups are already pressed in the BB. So this might be the best adapter:
http://wheelsmfg.com/386evo-adapter-for ... ranks.html

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sakattack
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by sakattack

Hi

this is my first post although it is a long time since i 've started
following this forum.I have very recently finished building an amazing Vial Evo.
The ride gives you an extraordinary feeling every time but there is something
ruining the whole magic.I have noticed a very small play in the upper bearing
of the headset.This happens no matter how much i torque(not overtorque) the
screw from the headset cap and the ones from the stem.Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

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