The yaw feature really works, but it does require careful setup to get it to where you can cross chain without rub. It was actually a bit easier when I was using the Force shifters with the extra trim position. But overall the shifting of RED is better; just no trim position so it requires more precise setup. I really like the integrated chain catcher.
I recall my DA7800 front shifting being better than Red. I also recall being absolutely blown away by the fantastically quick front shifting on the Ultegra group that launched just before DA7900 and after the end of the line "special edition gray" Ultegra group. That Ultegra was eye-openingly good.
Previous set-up: Orig Red shifters and Red FD (don't know if it was the fancy or std cage on the FD) with Zipp Vumaquad 9/10 rings. Mostly worked OK, but sometimes was slow from the small to the big ring. It was as if the chain was "thinking" about when and how to make the jump. Going down to the small ring never posed much of an issue.
Current set-up: Same orig Red shifters and new Red Yaw FD with new Zipp Vumaquad 10/11 rings. Shifting is improved, but only because the occasional slow shifts occur much less.
2011 Scott Addict R1 DA 7900 Matt black
2012 Scott CR1 Pro Ultegra 6700
2015 Specialized SWorks Tarmac Da 9000
2016 Specialized SWorks Tarmac DA 9100
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I don't have any chain rub - at all, zero, none, zilch - it shifts perfectly, and I'm not using SRAM Chainrings.
50/34 paired with an 11-28 and singingly smooth on older Red levers, which means I get an empty 'trim' which makes no difference. I'm quite content with it. Shifts are fast in both directions and not at all any different if I'm descending or climbing up a steep pitch. The only time I've ever had chain drop (which was protected by the chain catcher) was in an early ride when I set it up long, long ago, and it was a bit too aggressive of a shift and kick at the same time that caused it. Since then? I can kick and shift aggressively with no repercussions.
DA 9000 is pretty awesome, no doubt about that.
I'm not debating other groups, this topic is purely about the SRAM Red FD.
I think in my case the reason for cross chain rub is the big QXL oval ring. The shifting itself is great. I have dropped the chain on the inside even with the guide, but I think I had the guide on too loose. I tightened it up and have not dropped it since.
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