Felt 2014 AR1

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Ahillock
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by Ahillock

Did any of you consider the new Cervelo S3 when looking at the new Felt AR? I am in the same boat but might be leaning towards the S3 at this point.

eduhes
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by eduhes

hello from Spain, my inglish its so bad, sorry
i have a question for superdave....i bought a ar1 frame, and i want to change the saddle but i dont want to buy the 3t clamps oval saddle because i saw in the ar frd that the clamp its different, and i like it so much...its possible to buy??its possible to install this system in my seat post??

Zigmeister
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by Zigmeister

Ahillock, really like the new S3 personally. With some aero features integrated into the lighter/stiffer setup..the S3 is a really great and proven bike on the world tour so far.

With that said, apparently the Di2 internal battery won't fit into the seat post? But maybe will go into the seat tube I hear?

mitchgixer6
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by mitchgixer6

I also considered the S3 when deciding, but the extra cost was what eventually put me off. Personally I think Cervelo are massively over priced.

Eduhes. If you have the 3T seat post then unfortunately you'll have to buy the oval caps for a carbon railed saddle. I have heard however that they only work with rails which are 7x10. I bought the end caps and tried to fit my Specialised Toupe Pro which is 7x9 and it didn't work. There was a lot of movement with the saddle. Eventually I gave up and bought a metal railed saddle with 7x7 rails.

Ahillock
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by Ahillock

Zigmeister wrote:Ahillock, really like the new S3 personally. With some aero features integrated into the lighter/stiffer setup..the S3 is a really great and proven bike on the world tour so far.

With that said, apparently the Di2 internal battery won't fit into the seat post? But maybe will go into the seat tube I hear?


Yeah me too. The S3 and the AR are both great frames and it is hard to know which route to go.

Yes from what I have heard, internal battery goes into seat tube, no problem. Just place a little foam around it. Felt does have the more elegant design for the internal battery over Cervelo.


mitchgixer6 wrote:I also considered the S3 when deciding, but the extra cost was what eventually put me off. Personally I think Cervelo are massively over priced.



Not sure where you live mitch, but the S3 is cheaper in frameset and in similar Di2 build.

S3 frameset: $2300
AR1 frameset: $2500

S3 6870 Di2: $5200
AR2 6870 Di2: $6200

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53x12
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by 53x12

http://youtu.be/iUuaKbZLWgU

Marcel Wüst review of the AR FRD. Overall positive review but knocks the AR for rear brake performance.
"Marginal gains are the only gains when all that's left to gain is in the margins."

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53x12
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by 53x12

SuperDave, is the Felt F brake going to be released to the public for sale? Not sure if I have ever even seen a picture of this new center pull front brake before. Do you have any pictures you can share?
"Marginal gains are the only gains when all that's left to gain is in the margins."

excremanwu
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by excremanwu

I prefer UD to 12K finish :D

mitchgixer6
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by mitchgixer6

S3 prices are massively different here in the UK. Retail for the S3 is £2200, retail for the AR1 £1700.

That's for frame set only.

ultyguy
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by ultyguy

Haven't even gotten my grubby fingers on it yet but my mate who built it up (aero wheels yet to go on of course) sent this pic thru. Can't wait! Image

ultyguy
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by ultyguy

Fwiw- I was also between 2 mind vs the s3. However, got Ar1 for 1700 Eur vs generally 2600 Eur for S3. Combined with better geo for occasional TT use, chose AR1. I'm still a bit dubious of the rear brake though, I think the faff isn't worth the gains...

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itsacarr
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by itsacarr

Well since I started this thread I might as well throw in my .02

Rear brake issues aside I have to say this is the fastest bike I have ever seen downhill. That might not be saying much but I can confidently say I have never been able to drop or be dropped by some friends on this bike and that's pretty dang impressive when we all weigh the same. I won't correlate that to flat land speed but it certainly makes you think it's doing it's aero job.

Having ridden the old AR1 plenty the geometry of the new frame is spot on and rides like well, a normal bike would now! Similar to my old FC for sure only I like the taller head tube because I never enjoyed a tower of spacers :)

Either way - pretty rad, now I just need to find me some di2!

Mize
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by Mize

Super Dave: Any news on a neutral-offset seatpost? Would love one with the 3T clamp. Please let me know how to find one.

Regarding the rear brake, I'm kinda baffled by the claims that it's sub-par. On both my alloys and my Enve Smarts my rear brake is as good as the ones on my CAAD10 and my Tarmac. Perhaps it's just an issue when combined with Zipp braking surfaces?

Andrew69
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by Andrew69

Anyone in Australia with an AR FRD frameset?
In know cyclenutz has one in NZ, but I think I read he imported it from the US?

TIme to start planting the idea on a new bike in the wifes head I think! :lol:

DartanianX
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by DartanianX

There was one for sale on Bicycle Market here in Australia/the other day. Think they wanted like $3000 complete.

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