I have ordered a C59 61 Traditional in INIT 2014 colours a few weeks back.
I am just trying to plan what stem I need and get the geometry correct.
After reading around and trying to get top secret info regarding fork rake, head tube angle and bb drop I have come up with this.
If there is anyone else who has a 61 T which could verify my measurements that would be ace !
The fork rake on the C59 fork is 43mm. Where did you get the actual head tube angle of 73.3 degrees? Just curious but it seems right. Same question re the bb drop? Also, does bike cad pop out a wheelbase figure in all that data. Again, just curious about bike cad and want to compare a few things with my actual measurements.
Presuming at this point you're really just trying to figure out things exactly, like how many spacers you'll want to use etc, if any? Not much left to really consider actually, given the details in your cad drawing. And the drawing looks like it assumes a standard outboard headset which of course is easy to compensate for.
BTW if someone is interested there is an Excel Sheet to help you on geometry comparations here
http://gearinches.com/blog/misc/bike-ge ... comparator
That would be ace if it is not too much trouble... I am 6'2 but I like to ride a smaller frame hence the high seat post. I have opted for the factory Colnago 350mm post with 20mm of setback. Traditional frame allows not running a street light pole as a seat post.
I currently have a Look 695 XXL running a 120mm stem with a 3T bars with a 83 mm reach in a 50mm sloping geometry.
So obviously going to a Traditional I am not 100% sure of how it relates, hence my drawings.
At the moment I have already procured a set of Deda Superleggera bars with have a 75mm reach.
Btw the DHL box it came in gross weight was 198g inclusive of packaging 44cm... I thought that was amusing.
What I might do tonight is measure my Look up from Handle bars to seat (SMP Forma) and see how that relates.
I believe I am on the cusp between a 130mm and a 120mm but the drop on the head tube is what I am worried about... I am looking at getting the Deda Superleggero 82 degree stem.
I know for a fact that its 820mm BB to the Seat Rail + 35mm for the Selle SMP Forma which is the same set up across all my other bikes.
I am not too sure how many spacers I need but my look 695 C stem is sitting parallel. I hope to have the stem slammed on the frame but that depends on the total top tube height. I have good flexibility in my lower back.
Below is the link to the bike cad drawing I been working on
http://www.bikecad.ca/1374991483971?__u ... sr=(direct" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)|utmccn=(direct)|utmcmd=(none)&__utmv=-&__utmk=1883441
By the way I am curious how you found the traditional frame to climb with ? Is it more flexy than a slopping frame as people make it out to be ?
Tip of saddle to center of campagnolo hood 800
Center of stem to ground 90 degrees 965
By the way I know the height of my bike better than my own
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