H Plus Archetype & Hope Pro 3 Vs Mavic Ksyrium Elite

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by btompkins0112

^ This......I had a set of Elites and they rode like a coal cart. If that is what you are looking for, then have at them. I had Archetypes in a 24/28 before going to my current XC279/DT 350 build in 28/28 and I wouldn't trade either of them for the Elites.

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by mr_tim

I've run the Archetype on 24h rear on 240s hub with x2 lacing using ACI DBs for probably 5, 6k kms. 75kgs. Rolling hills & rutted roads in Kent / Surrey / London UK.

If you're after bomb proof jump up to 28h. At my weight 32h would be over kill.

20h front radial has taken anything & everything without any fuss.

& don't forget the 240s have a poor flange size & spacing. A better hub would be a better build in 24h, let alone 28h rear.

The one thing I would do differently on that build is brass nips all around for the rear. The ally nips have been a pain given fairly high tensions on the 24h build, so they don't like being tweaked too much... which I have done a couple of times in the overall usage period.

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by Nairnp


Thanks for the replies.

I have test ridden the Elites and to be fair, really liked how they feel, I like a stiff / direct setup.

I am meeting up with a friend that haves the archtypes (though on Royce hubs) to compare.

I looked at 32h as I am 220lb. I was advised off two different wheel builders this is what I would ideally need.

My current set are 1700g though, so its a toss up between save weight (1520g for elites) or better ride & IMO better looks but heavier (1750g aprox for Archtypes)

The matter of repir is irelevant, my LBS is a Mavic Premium shop, so they carry all spares and would be able to do any repairs the same day.

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by Devon

You may want to check the weight recommendation for the Mavics, I'm pretty sure they don't allow for such weight.
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by DJT21

There really is no point saving 200g on the wheels when you weigh 220lbs.

Get the Archetypes for a better ride quality and durability. It's a no brainer.

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