tinozee wrote:Dallez - How is that creating a problem? A problem for who?
The fact is that Sram presented the 2012 Red as a top shelf and new group about 10 months ago. When groupset manufacturers release a new group, I think it is fair to expect that it will remain as the top tier group for at least a couple of years. Even if that is not the case, then I think it's fine for CONSUMERS to make criticism of COMPANIES. There is no need to be a fanboi of a brand unless you have some sort of odd insecurity and material obsession.
The point and benefit of product and brand criticism is that it drives improvement - there is a simple solution that Sram could supply to folks who bought the old/new group. Let's see if they do that by creating a fix pack with an 11sp ratchet for the 10sp shifter. If not, it will be the last time I purchase Sram. I would think that they would appreciate that type of feedback. It's definitely more valuable to them than more airy comments buttering their nuts.
I meant problem in that hypothetically had Ozrider might have just been happy with his current 2012 Red gruppo and enjoyed it now and for the foreseeable future. But because 22 has been announced now that enjoyment has lessened somehow. It just seems like a strong reaction to dump it all together.
Like I said I understand the frustration. We've all fallen prey I'm sure, likely with regards to electronics despite how much research we might have done. Progress is always around the corner.
I will agree it seems pointless to have introduced 2012 Red when they surely new 22 was in the works. Just wait 1 year.
Lastly I am not against criticising companies. The Internet is a funny place where you get labeled a fanboy for freaking having an opinion. I have 105 on my bike. I amnit some preacher for all things SRAM. I was merely making an observation that Ozriders decision to dump Red immediately seems curious to me. But it's no judgment and like I said I understand the frustration.