I have Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheels and I would like to know if the 303 are more rigid.
What terain do you ride?
I'm looking for a deep profile low spoke wheel to use in windy conditions.
How do people compare the AC 420 to the Kyrium and Zipp range?
more will reply to this subject. but personally i would not ride these rims with less than 28 spokes front and rear, if your an agressive rider go with 32h rear.
But dude, are these for racing, training, everyday use? If they are for training forget carbon tubulars, get a good set of clinchers.
I know the conditions you have in Bretagne, and I'd avoid a deep profile wheel. You have too much wind, too rough road surfaces (I've pedaled on the road from Paris to Brest, following two team-mates who were racing PBP).
Personally I'd switch to a low profile wheel. Alu rim: Campagnolo Neutron , while if you like carbon: Corima Winum. Corimas are very strong, stiff and durable.
Notice that i'm not saying Zipp's are not good wheels... simply I don't suggest them to you.
With standard spoking the lowest I would go is 28 rear and 20 on the front with CX-Rays. With triplet spoking on the rear 24 would be ok (16 drive/8 non-drive) but I would use a 14g bladed spoke for the non-drive ones. For TT's lower would be fine but any descending or fast corners and you're going to notice it.
Zipp's are a stiffer, lighter wheel, however, as others have already noted, they are more fragile, and I have experienced both spoke and wheel breakage. Zipp is an excellent company and has repaired my wheels-even after their warranty period expired!
As for the spokes, I see the critical issue not as the number of spokes, but the type of spokes-Sapims are what you need-there're stronger, stiffer and produce less breakage.
Again, I must underline the opinions already given here regarding your choice of wheels. Zipp 303's are not a good wheel for windy, wet conditions-both bike control and braking will be compromised. If you must use these wheels, Zipp brake pads are imperative.
Like many other riders, I prefer Campy Nucleons in bad weather-they're low profile, strong and have an excellent braking surface. Their downside is tire removal is necessary before spoke adjustment.
In fact, I want to buy great aero/light wheels. I will use them only in very good conditions (not under the rain). I don't do triathlon races. I would like to buy Zipp 404 but because my weight is quite low, I am afraid to be disturb by the wind... And I don't want to buy Corima Winium or Campa Nucleon because I want a deep rim. I want to make me a pleasure in buying these wheels. I don't really need new wheels but I have had money and I want to spend it in wheels.
Do you think that if I buy Zipp 303, it would be better if I buy only the rim and I go to a wheels maker in order to have good spokes ? If the answer is "Yes", which spokes I must put on them ?
8oken wrote:In fact, I want to buy great aero/light wheels. I will use them only in very good conditions (not under the rain). I don't do triathlon races. I would like to buy Zipp 404 but because my weight is quite low, I am afraid to be disturb by the wind... And I don't want to buy Corima Winium or Campa Nucleon because I want a deep rim. I want to make me a pleasure in buying these wheels. I don't really need new wheels but I have had money and I want to spend it in wheels.
Ever thought about buying the real thing?
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