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BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:04 pm
by Wcl4
I see a lot of weenie builds that start with the 0.7 as the base. I don't really see anyone starting with the BH Ultralight. They both seem to be similar in weight, but the Wilier is $1200 more. Any particular reason Wilier seems to be the frame of choice?

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:02 pm
by wingguy
I can't say why I chose a Zero.7 over a BH because I've never looked at the BH, but I can tell you why I'm happy I chose it over everything else. In no particular order:

Bling. It's Italian, it looks sexy, it's rare... It makes me happy when I look at it. That's important.
Performance. The BB/chainstay area is as good as the the reviews say it is. Acceleration and uphill attacks are awesome.
Ride quality. It's comfortable but not muted, it's aggressive but not harsh. By comparison a Cervelo seems boring and a C59 seems boneshaking.
Handling. It's an Italian bike. It descends brilliantly. It's just fun to ride.

At the end of the day as far as your question goes though - I chose it because I wanted an Italian frame and the Zero.7 was the only true Italian lightweight available, and a few colleagues already raved about the quality of the Cento1 and Wilier in general. Now that I've got it I'm glad I did, because I have trouble imagining a better bike.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:02 pm
by Weenie

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 12:13 am
by tobyinsydney
RIDE has reviewed both these bikes in our last two issues...

Preview the review of the Wilier here
http://www.zinio.com/pages/RIDECyclingR ... 399/pg-224

And the BH here
http://www.zinio.com/pages/RIDECyclingR ... 559/pg-220

Both great bikes and surprisingly similar... BH have really stepped it up with the Ultralight and the G6 was for my money the best looking new frame at Eurobike.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:21 am
by Wcl4
Thanks for the articles Toby. Can't tell if the writer prefers his BH or if he likes the Wilier better. Prefer the meatier and straight fork of the BH, but the graphics of the Wilier are sexier.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:39 am
by kevosinn
the zero.7 in my opinion is a better bike by far. Ive built a few of the Ultralight's at my shop that people have brought in. The chain line was off on one of them and caused some shifting problems. Also the zero.7 is a bit lighter. My frame came in at 839 grams in the XL size with the seat collar, barrel adjusters, and rd hanger. the md. ultralight I built came in at 849..... thats a huge difference. I also like the process that Wilier uses to infuse a film into the carbon to give the frame a smoother ride with out using heavier intermediate modulus carbon. Ive owned a lot of high end bikes ( dogma 2, colnago m10 recently) and the wilier simply blows them away...Here is a link to my build.

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Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:22 am
by SWijland
First time I actually looked at the BH G6. Man it looks nice.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:47 am
by Wcl4
Kevosinn, how do you compare Wilier with D2? Obviously D2 is heavier and feels a bit sluggish, but i like ride quality of that bike. Reminds me of heavier european sports cars vs look 695 which feels more like lightweight type car.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:17 am
by prendrefeu
Saw a Zero7 on this morning's ride, I was surprised at how good it looks in person.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:45 am
by kevosinn
in my opinion the wilier is on another level than the dogma. I feel that its just as stiff as the dogma but the ride quality is soooo much better on the wilier not to mention 400 grams of weight difference.... also I feel that the wilier corners better.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:19 am
by Wcl4
Anyone know what fork this is?
http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france ... lier-zero7

The fact that pros use a different fork concerns me.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:47 am
by kevosinn
it looks like the stock fork to me?

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:39 pm
by kgt
No it's not. Scarponi used a different fork. It had to do with geometry maybe?

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:16 pm
by Wcl4
Here too:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l0oAu3dcW-w/T ... wilier.jpg

it looks beefier and it's a straight fork unlike the stock one that comes with the frame.

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:28 pm
by Wcl4
I wonder if Scarponi's fork is from the Cento 1 SR

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:28 pm
by Weenie

Re: BH Ultralight vs Wilier 0.7

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:13 am
by Tinea Pedis
Given he's the team leader, if he wants the bike to handle a little differently then the team will give it to him. No?

Also, that pic looks like it was from much earlier in the season. There's every chance he was testing out a different rake on the fork for them to see if it improved the bike.


Golden rule really is 'just because the Pro's do it doesn't mean we should'.