Eurobike 2012

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
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by 743power

conti force/attack tubs should be popular with a lot of people and the way lighter clinchers look interesting. xking cx tubs will be a good cross option too.
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Given how tied up they would have been with getting EPS to the market, it's too much to expect for Campag to have their new disk ready isn't it?

Don't want to push the poor lads too much :lol:

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743power wrote:Pretty firm rumors: Rotor powercrank, new zipp models; probably disc brake and maybe an updated 202 (theyre a little heavy by todays standards), sram red hydraulic.

What I'd like to see:

2013 force. For all the fanfare of the new red, force would benefit from every improvement just the same. Would be nice to see, but sram is big on sea otter or that time for road releases.

New garmin headunit. Nothing majorly wrong with the 500/800 but there is always room for improvement.

New saddle shape from fizik. Something closer to a scratch. Shapely, but longer then the aliante.


Interested in this new possible fizik shape. Shapely as in more of a rounded profile? So sort of like an Arione and Aliante cross if that makes sense? The length of the Arione but the more "saddle shaped/traditional" rounded off look of the Aliante?
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Hey Solid, that second part of my post was a wish list of sorts. Things that I would like to see, but have no info on them coming out. The first few things I listed were things that were known to be coming out.

I would love to see a saddle like you describe from fizik, but they arent likely to come out with that. Something in the vein of a scratch or romin with the fizik build quality would be so nice.
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updated (not new) force: http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/sram-f ... nge/013558

firmly making force the best bang for the buck there is
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Interesting in seeing pictures of Simplon's new range:

NEXIO "aero" bike
and the new Pavo3 Ultra (740g frame, 295g fork)
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prendrefeu wrote:Toujours les vélos de TT sont tout le début regarder essentiellement la même chose. :?


(edit, sorry, English: All the TT bikes are beginning to look the same)



I don't see what you're talking about; I think that Orbea DA/P3 looks great!
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Orbea/Cervelo/Felt/whatever DA/P3/DA1/etc:.

Funnily enough, as all of these brands sort of meld their 'aero TT' designs into the same shapes, the Open Mould TT frames will become more and more comparable for aero development and technology as it will be easier to mimic. Let the savings begin! I may actually get a TT frame in the next year just for s&g's it'll be that laughable.

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I'm not sure if my sarcasm was detected :(



(I was suggesting that was an Orbea P3... er DA1... er *insert any other 2012 TT frame that's not a BMC*)
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It was detected, which is why I agreed that the Orbea P3 is looking good.

I want to see Hong-Fu's bike in a wind-tunnel test along with the other big brand names. Will that happen? No, never: HongFu doesn't pay adverts for the cycling magazines.
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Oh... well then... iPhail. -_-




After an article I read yesterday (the Mavic wheel shootout and "what is aero" follow-up, posted somewhere around here) I'm much less intrigued/concerned about the aerodynamics of a frame at all. There was discussion at the end of the article that an independent team spent time (and their own money) at the MIT wind tunnel and with a rider onboard in a TT position, the difference between an uber-aero TT frame and an oval tube Ti frame was zilch.


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MIT's wind tunnel has significant problems when testing with people on board. I wouldn't use that as the end all be all. I'm sure a P5 is significantly faster than a biconvex shaped Ti bike

Imaking20 wrote:Oh... well then... iPhail. -_-




After an article I read yesterday (the Mavic wheel shootout and "what is aero" follow-up, posted somewhere around here) I'm much less intrigued/concerned about the aerodynamics of a frame at all. There was discussion at the end of the article that an independent team spent time (and their own money) at the MIT wind tunnel and with a rider onboard in a TT position, the difference between an uber-aero TT frame and an oval tube Ti frame was zilch.


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That's convenient :)
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I am going this Saturday will post some pics :)
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