Tour magazine did a performance review a few months ago on alu frames stock bikes and the Canyon AL smoked all others in the review.
(including the CAAD10 - blasphemy, I know...)
Interesting to hear that the later iterations of the Ultimate CF was a bit more comfy. I'm not saying my 09 was killer, but I put the Merckx and an Isaac Sonic quite a bit ahead in the comfort dept. I'm not convinced the new Ultimate Al is going to be very comfy over long distances, but I'm also a believer of wheel/tire combos having a huge impact on that and running tubeless or alu tubs (I've got some old Neutrons recently and they are $$$$) increased the comfort level. I've got a Ridley Scandium in the dock at the mo, so that does take my alu demand out the equation.
Franklin- Never ridden Ti, the new Spin's do look nice, but am angling towards carbon I think. Ridley a possibility as the geo fits me, I guess I'd have to lean more towards the Damocles which is supposed to be the most robust.
wassertreter- interesting on the Kom, didn't know that. Maybe the K-uno would fit me better tho, hmmm.
I'm tempted by the nago, but I'm not a dentist, is that ok?
I could be crazy and even through a Look 595 into the equation
+ discount crash replacement plan.
come with a fairly light seat post.. adds value to the package.
also typically taller head tube than some bikes, but not over the top, just a little. builds up to a little nicer looking bike for people with your body composition (long legs, higher seat height).
also although the HT is taller, its not super sloping. BUT still doesnt look like a big tank with the rear end design.
i do work in a shop that sells BMCs
but i am also like you, long legs and cant ride anything with a super short HT.
Didn't know they had a good crash replacement etc policy, that does help tip the scales and dealers are pretty common around here too being Suisse. However, it's like telling an American on this forum to buy a Trek Madone, at least the Trek is made in USA.
I have one of their alu frames that I'm very happy with. They offer custom geo and I think everything is made onsite in the Czech Rep. You can drop into the factory for test rides and fitting, which is what I'm going to do when I'm next near Prague. Perhaps not as good value as a Canyon or similar though.
A very refined ride, frame is not the lightest (but feels overbuilt).
You can tune the ride with the different elastomers...
Riding one these days (had a parlee z4, cervelo r3, soloist, look 381i and alu stuff) and it is better in the comfort department than all the others i rode, yet as stiff if not stiffer.
Crash durability? If this vid is anything to go on, the M10s are fine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41ei4seVpvI
I dealt with Kuoata for a warranty claim. In my view they were unreasonable (I will explain in a PM if you wish), unprofessional and unresponsive.
I tried to claim for a Kuota Kredo with a broken chainstay near the bottom bracket.They refused to replace it citing reasons that were unrelated to the damaged area. (scuffing from my heal 200mm away from the broken chainstay.)
Having ridden other bikes since then and dealt with other warranty claims, I would chose another brand - there are too many good bikes with good warranty departments out there.
OrPe- yup, had thrown it in my last post as an option, just have to troll around to find a large. Headtubes look kinda short for me, but I heard that their headset added quite a bit of height?
howler- I have considered the M10, but I hesitate in that I could probably get an EPS for around similar money and it's tube/lug and probably a bit more durable. M10 made by Giant no? Maybe just get a ML Tcr sl in that case for less money. Although M10 reviews seem to be positive.
drewb- sucks about your experience, I have to say I've heard similar unfortunately.
ultyguy wrote:OrPe- yup, had thrown it in my last post as an option, just have to troll around to find a large. Headtubes look kinda short for me, but I heard that their headset added quite a bit of height?
Assuming you find a 595 of the later years (Headfit system - look's integrated headset), than the top cap adds 20mm. a large 595 + all needed HW gives you a headtube of 176mm overall (minimum, no sorter cap available - you have to use the look one).
I find it rather tall for a large.
If you're looking at earlier years (no headfit) than 156 headtube is short-ish.
the look ride is phenomenal. takes a while to realize how smooth it is (and i am riding the 595 ULTRA with the black elsatomer).
On the Theory of Relativity.
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