Otoh a little consumer consumption can go a long way to increasing motivational factors. In that case get the totl component set, put in the miles and then choose a frame.
bm0p700f wrote:I will never go with brand name bike again. Raw carbon frames are plenty full. Cinelli carbon frames are Columbus frames and a raw Columbus frame is half the price of the Cinelli frame. Given I do not like modern bike paint jobs much so it's win win.
My next bike will be raw carbon frame, maybe chinese (Deng Fu, Focus e.t.c) or Columbus. Some one is going to say that the Columbus frames are made in the far east but at least they warranty back up.
Im just the opposite! I will never buy a cheap chinese carbon frame again - Bad experince with my Neo Exile, which at the time I bought it got many praises
My Parlee Z5 is the best thing Ive ever spent my money on.. Proberly not the right frame for all, but for me its just perfect - Have 2010 SRAM force with a red crank, Except from the crank I moved everything else from the neo.. Will most likely upgrade my group next year!!
On SRAM, Rival, Force, and Red are all fairly close. Apex is the first group which looks cheap, but it still works well. Same deal with Campy: top 3 groups are all quite good. On Shimano, I find anything below Dura-Ace seems like a compromise. That's just my perception.
But you can also look at it from a $/gram standpoint. Frames are an expensive way to save weight.
in your situation i would go mid level full build using a 2nd hand frame.
rival is a good option in your situation, the crank is the only really heavy part, if you switch to a nicer frame at a later date with a different BB type you can use it as an excuse to do an after market crank as well and save ~200g. same can be said for athena really. if you buy a BB30 bike though just go with force.
bluesea wrote:Are you the person coming back from deployment? If transitioning from a period off the saddle, I would tend to say put in 2000-3000mi to regain your cycling legs, balance, flexibility. You would then be in a much better postion to choose a frame, and can respond better to any unexpected fit changes that might come up.
yes I am, and That is exactly the plan.
I might even wait until i have more money.
Im not expected to return until winter, (in SoCal do ill be riding right away) And might wait a few months to get my legs back.
I REALLY do appreciate all you guys' opinions and suggestions.
Bike Fit. Several have said to get a good fit.
I have, i have had my Cervelo fitted several times by 'better' shops in NYC and SoCal (the last one barely rotated the bars, so its safe to say the fit is close to perfect) and am extremeley comfortable with its fit.
I had the felt fit at the shop i puchased it in, and then 700 miles later at a 'better' shop (again, barely any adj, perfectly comfortable)
Keep it up though i have nothing but time to think and ponder.
Shimano and Campy forever!!
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