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Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:03 pm
by petromyzon
Well I'm quick at a cable swap too, but not as quick as never having to do it, and there is always a little bit of tweaking to do after you've installed a fresh one. That and the monster front shifting is not a negligible gain.

Anyway, the OP's mechs have both stopped moving, right? Sounds like a cable/connector issue, not one that needs a fancy diagnostic tool.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:11 pm
by goodboyr
Yawn! Its always the same. OP asks about di2, and the usual suspects go off topic and give the standard rant about how much better a greasy, stretchy, mechanical cable system is. "Old school", "tradition", "what if lightning strikes?", "what if you're in the middle of the desert and the battery dies?", etc. Very predictable, and not helping the OP in the least.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:11 pm
by Weenie

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:29 pm
by krusty
Yeah, I don't think anyone is of the opinion that a cable system is so much better, just that the electronic system does not offer a 'night & day, gotta-have' difference to dump existing systems and upgrade right now, especially for the price. Most of us are watching with interest to see where it takes us in the next few years, at which point many of us will be faced with the replacement of components anyway. The technical glitches and their solutions are interesting. The relatively few I have heard of make it a system worthy of consideration. As long as non user-serviceable components have good reliability, there's no issue. However, being unable to diagnose even the simplest of problems because of proprietary software/diagnostic tools just pisses a lot of people off, and rightly so. Automotive manufacturers discovered a long time ago that the money was in after-sale service, especially for systems that couldn't be diagnosed by non factory techs. Chrysler lost that lawsuit, and hopefully the diagnostic tools for Campy and Shimano will find their way into circulation cheaply as well.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:31 pm
by MisterNoChain
Have you tried resetting it? (holding the button on the controller)

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:05 pm
by HammerTime2
goodboyr wrote:Yawn! Its always the same. OP asks about di2, and the usual suspects go off topic and give the standard rant about how much better a greasy, stretchy, mechanical cable system is. "Old school", "tradition", "what if lightning strikes?", "what if you're in the middle of the desert and the battery dies?", etc. Very predictable, and not helping the OP in the least.
When the nuclear war starts, and your electronic shifting system is disabled by the electromagnetic pulse, I'll still be* cruising and shifting merrily along on my mechanically shifting bike.

* Until I'm killed by or keel over from the blast effects or radiation

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:32 pm
by goodboyr
No worries. I wrapped my cable harness in cadmium foil. It has a very high neutron cross section. The di2 will continue to operate, as my smoking skeleton hands try to find the buttons.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:35 pm
by HammerTime2
Have you properly tested it to ensure that it is in fact adequately nuclear hardened? Are you sure that the ICs in the electronic brain won't be fried?

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:57 pm
by krusty
goodboyr wrote: The di2 will continue to operate, as my smoking skeleton hands try to find the buttons.

Hmm, that gives me a cool idea for a comic book...

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:04 am
by CerveloMikey
Back on topic. If the battery is charged and connected, check all the connections then replace the front harness with the adjustment box.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:44 am
by neomoz
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Sorry had to do it.

Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:35 am
by darkblue08
Doesnt sound like there are to many different part that can fail: batteri, control unit or cables.
If both shifters fail, the problem is before it split up to RD and FD, if not its after they split up.
Either test the parts that can be the problem incl connection points or replace them.
I would love to get a DI2, one if the reasons bring throubleshooting it :)

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:57 am
by trojancyclist
I'm sure that each weenie to respond with "It's a waste of money to switch to DI2 because a cable shifting system is and has been fine for years and years" all drive manual transmission cars..I mean the type with a real live cable actuated clutch....right?
Technology will move forward get ready for it.

Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:52 am
by Plugger14
Well here's the update on my dead Di2

I took my battery down to Leigh at Hampton Cycles to see if this was the problem and sure enough it worked fine on another Di2 bike so it's nothing to do with the battery.

I unplugged and reattached all of the connectors for good measure - no change

Strangely enough when I hold the button down on the controller for a few seconds the RD responds and moves up and down one sprocket.

So next step is to find someone that has a diagnostic tool to get to the bottom of this.

Thank god I have another bike running analogue campy, just goes to prove that one bike is certainly not enough.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:16 am
by artray
D12 is becoming self-aware and its plan to take over the worlds main frames has begun right here on the WW sight with Pluggers bike.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:36 pm
by stella-azzurra
I wonder if you have to buy a new shifter because of this. A harness fix would have been better than a shifter fix.
Maybe all you would need to do is clean up the contact on the button so power gets to the derailleur.
Let us know what you end up doing.

Re: Dead Di2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:36 pm
by Weenie