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Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:30 pm
by Horacio
Instead of "You are not alone" on the Vittoria's...I'd like mine to read, "Don't get dropped".

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:57 pm
by brycerider
Over styled. Look like something Fred Astaire wore. Get the Giro version in black.

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Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:02 am
by notsoswift
incognitus wrote:Thanks for the replies!

I actually just pulled the trigger and went with the poll, i.e. the black ones. I agree that the white ones just look slightly too .... white?

Isn't the poll result Neither?

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:14 am
by cmh
Rick wrote:No vote: they BOTH look pretty good.
But "Yak leather" ?!?!? :shock:


FWIW I have a pair of running shoes that are made of yak leather...by far the comfiest running pair I own. Much softer and more breathable than Sidi leather for sure.

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:16 am
by Horacio
I believe at the time he decided, the majority was black. The longer the poll is active, the "neithers" get greater.

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:28 am
by incognitus
Horacio wrote:I believe at the time he decided, the majority was black. The longer the poll is active, the "neithers" get greater.


Interesting observation. Any theory as to why that is?

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:29 am
by incognitus
cazone wrote:the red ones
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This was not meant seriously, was it? :noidea:

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:34 am
by incognitus
brycerider wrote:Over styled. Look like something Fred Astaire wore. Get the Giro version in black.

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Damnit. I can see where you are coming from...

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Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:17 am
by bones
I refuse to buy Rapha shoes. They are environmentally irresponsible. The slaughter of wild yaks just for this high dollar shoe is reckless.

Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:42 pm
by btompkins0112
bones wrote:I refuse to buy Rapha shoes. They are environmentally irresponsible. The slaughter of wild yaks just for this high dollar shoe is reckless.


Isn't yak like deer in that the plural and singular variation of the word is the same?

Also, let's not have the discussion again, please. They aren't wild yak if they live on a farm.......

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:03 pm
by sawyer
The Fred Astaire comment is on the money.

If the white Rapha shoes didn't have the black skunk band and perhaps just had some silver/pale gold Rapha motifs then they would be quite classy. They have reviewed well.

Too Fred Astaire for me.

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 7:11 pm
by bones
btompkins0112 wrote:
bones wrote:I refuse to buy Rapha shoes. They are environmentally irresponsible. The slaughter of wild yaks just for this high dollar shoe is reckless.


Isn't yak like deer in that the plural and singular variation of the word is the same?

Also, let's not have the discussion again, please. They aren't wild yak if they live on a farm.......



The problem is that you cannot confirm, and neither can Rapha, that their leathers do not come from Wild Yaks. So no. I am not going to buy these overpriced shoes so that I can proudly state to my friends that the leather comes from an endangered animal species.

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:23 pm
by ultimobici
They use leather supplied by Ecco. Having trawled their site I suspect that they are unlikely to be using Wild Yak to produce the product they supply to Rapha/Giro. The reason? Besides the damaging publicity t would garner for a company like Ecco, they also can't control the quality of the hide.

So, do us all a favour and sling your sanctimoniously misinformed hook.

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:03 pm
by bones
No. Ecco buys the Yak leathers, but they then sell it to Rapha. And Rapha does not know the true supply lines of the Ecco leathers and I imagine that neither does Ecco. So no, I am not going to believe that what Rapha or Ecco does is environmentally friendly regardless of the Ecco marketing.

Even utilizing farm-raised Yaks, which Rapha cannot confirm, it is extremely unethical to slaughter these animals when their brethren, the Wild Yak species, are endangered. Shame on you for supporting this cruel, senseless destruction of this animal for a pair of $400 cycling shoes.

Re: Rapha Grand Tour Shoes...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:08 pm
by cmh
lol.