We tried to order one this morning, to be told the last of the traditional lugs was sold earlier this week and they won't be getting any more
So it's sloping geometry only from now on
Could be wrong ofcourse, but that seems like the more logical reasoning here.
But you are right @Trektocolnago, with each passing year Colnago becomes just a bit more generic. Be happy you have a C59. It will be a frame to own for many years.
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Calnago wrote:As far as I'm concerned, buying a properly fitting Colnago was actually better than buying custom. I've had custom, and while it is possible to get three points that "fit" (saddle, pedals, handlebars) that doesn't mean it translates into a perfect handling bicycle, or even aesthetically pleasing bicycle. When a custom builder says his frame is specific for you, you have to ask "how so?". It should be a given that it will fit, but when they say the tubes are specific for you I question that a lot, because how do you really know? You just take his word for it. You don't get to say, well... I'd like to try the same frame but with less stiff tubes, or with stiffer tubes. When the frame is done, you take it home, you ride it, you say "Wow, I've got a 'custom' frame". I've been down that road. Custom frame, spend a ton... of course I want to think it was the best frame I could have possibly had. But it wasn't. That's not to say I don't appreciate the craftsmanship of some of the custom builders out there (Firefly Ti for example), just that with a Colnago, or any major tested brand, you get tried and proven geometry. A bike is a bike, after all... just some seem a little bit nicer than others.
I know this is off topic...
I wasn't going to bite but...if you're talking about Colnago specifically then I can't argue with with regard to custom versus off the shelf as I don't have one...but if you're not then you obviously went to the wrong builder, you're painting with a pretty broad brush...IMO...
For me the whole really made in Italy is more important than lugged or not. Without this and doubly without the size options then you might as well consider any other made in the east brand. That is not to say they are better or worse but it are unique key sales features that made Colnago different. I sure wouldn't pay a premium just for the name.
Agree with Calnago above about custom etc..lower resale value too.
@Timw: Agreed, if Colnago does not offer the sloping only frame in incremental sizes of 1cm, they have lost one of the biggest advantages that truly does set them apart in today's world of mass produced bicycles. Without that, they are one step closer to being just another generic brand of frame with some history.
@LionelB: Love your Crumpton. If I ever get over there again, we will need to go for a spin and swap bikes. Would love to try it. Everyone is different. When you find a frame you love, regardless of who made it, it's a keeper.
Calnago wrote:@LionelB: Love your Crumpton. If I ever get over there again, we will need to go for a spin and swap bikes. Would love to try it. Everyone is different. When you find a frame you love, regardless of who made it, it's a keeper.
That's a dangerous test, you may want to drop your Colnago
Just ordered a C59 sloping and am aware of the differences on paper. It will be interesting to compare the ride and stability characteristics with a very expensive "off the shelf" frameset.
@barsook77: Yes, please report back with how you like it. Plus, when you got your Eriksen I'm assuming you had a lot of riding experience under your belt and knew pretty much exactly what you wanted, versus someone that doesn't really understand the first thing about frame geometry etc. and goes to a custom builder, because he can.
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