Yet another narrow bar: Worx Narrow and Super Narrow Bars

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mrbrown4001
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by mrbrown4001

Are you ridding these?


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mrbrown4001 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:28 pm
Are you ridding these?


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I've had these in my favorites for a while, but the fulfillment times are long. The minimum amount of reviews seem to be good. A little heavy but stiff. I'd get the 360mm top / 420mm drops version.

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by toxin

Like half this thread is about those bars

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patliean1 wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:34 pm
mrbrown4001 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:28 pm
Are you ridding these?


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I've had these in my favorites for a while, but the fulfillment times are long. The minimum amount of reviews seem to be good. A little heavy but stiff. I'd get the 360mm top / 420mm drops version.
I received mine within 10 days

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by rhs2z

Initial review of Toots Ashaa RR bar:

Unfortunately, my assiomas have been broken. (I just got the replacement from favero.) So this will be a qualitative review. I can compare them to the ornix bars, which I was using previously (and liked overall). I've also used enve 35 bars.

Look and finish
These bars look badass and the finish is excellent- much better than ornix on inside of bars.

Weight:
It was around 255g, 100g less than ornix.

Stiffness:
Rock solid for me, although I am only 150lb and not a sprinter.

Installation:
I run rim brake mechanical, semi-internal cables. Installation was FAR easier than ornix and enve. It seems to me that this is because there is almost a straight line between the port near the shifter clamp and the port near the stem clamp.

Geometry
I am always trying to rotate forward over the BB, opening the hip angle. I use a 140stem but still wanted more reach. This was the main reason why I bought these bars.
First impressions are VERY positive. Before, it felt difficult for me to crank at threshold power for long periods when in my best aero position: I would always be sacrificing 20w. I can now just CRANK IT. I'll be able to verify that I am getting more power once I get my PM working again.
The bars also have the extra rise. Visually, I am now getting something that looks more like a praying mantis TT position. I think that this extra rise is another reason why I feel less cramped when getting very aero.

Ergonomics
The Ornix bars are a bit strange- they have these bulges in both the drops and on the tops of the bars. It was always hard to keep my forearms resting on top of the bars for a long period (ie, a 45km merckx TT).
I like these bars WAY better. Just a smooth, flat top of the bar for resting the forearms. I have the bar tilted so that the flat plane angles slightly upwards- this gets more of the praying mantis effect.

Overall, I love these bars so far. Hopefully they won't get banned next year.





 

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by DoesMyBikeLookFat

Finally finished building up my new race bike - the cutout in the bikedocs in combo with the longer, flatter profile of the new Red brifters makes for a phenomenally comfortable and stable platform when you're in the sphinx position. As with going from 38->33 bars there was a brief period where they felt a bit 'off' but seemed normal enough after a couple of miles.

Will do some CdA testing on my normal loop later this week. Hopefully no counterintuitive aero losses result!

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by Arnomatic

I've just ordered the Bikedoc bars (to the UK) with 36cm wide tops. Planning to go on a fully mechanical bike, so will update with photos of installation! Fingers crossed it's not too painful.

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Pajazo wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:52 pm
Has anyone tried this bar

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007314052092.html

Comes in 300-400 mm c-c hoods and 330-430mm c-c drops. I have personally no experience with these bars, but the geometry seems interesting.
I just ordered this one, so I can give you my thoughts once they arrive!

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by DaveQB

Here's some more detatils on the recently released Ascent Aeroo handlebars.

https://www.ascent-bikes.com/collection ... long-reach
https://www.ascent-bikes.com/collection ... hort-reach

And the aero testing report conducted by AeroEdge --> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/ ... 1722139445
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by 208

Would be nice to see them compared to something relevant like the 35cm enve bars instead of a 42cm round bar from 1999.

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by toxin

Aero test aren't that relevant for this bar. The point of it is making it easier on your body to hold a pseudo tt position, like asha RR. They just go about it in slightly different ways. The gains will be from better position discipline and less fatigue from your arms.

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by DaveQB

@208 I agree. But better than just a marketing catch phrase saying something like "This is faster than all other handlebars!".
Aerocoach tested their Ornix against the 35mm hoods ENVE SES bars.

@toxin I too think the sweep back angle will help give you better forearm support in the aero hoods and thus one can hold that position for longer. Qing, Ascent Bikes founder, agrees:

https://youtu.be/QZQ0TKv-jjQ?si=8TgVkiWIs-3qEuCb&t=369

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by 208

DaveQB wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:32 pm
@208 I agree. But better than just a marketing catch phrase saying something like "This is faster than all other handlebars!".
Aerocoach tested their Ornix against the 35mm hoods ENVE SES bars.
It's not really better than anything, except for showing that Ascent is stupid enough to spend money/time on validating that it is faster vs a 42cm round bar.

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by DaveQB

@208 I agree adding a set of aero bars into the protocol would have been beneficial. Aeroo wasn't the clear fastest in all configurations though. I think you haven't read the full report. They also compared to 32cm round bars.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/ ... 1722139445

Source: https://www.ascent-bikes.com/pages/aero ... handlebars

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DaveQB wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:41 am
@208 I agree adding a set of aero bars into the protocol would have been beneficial. Aeroo wasn't the clear fastest in all configurations though. I think you haven't read the full report. They also compared to 32cm round bars.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0720/ ... 1722139445

Source: https://www.ascent-bikes.com/pages/aero ... handlebars
I hadn't read the full report, but now I have I see they compared them against 2 round bars... That's even worse, 2 irrelevant tests in the one paper.

So perhaps my original point could be rephrased as, "Would be nice to see them compared to something relevant like the 35cm enve bars instead two different round bars."

I still don't get the inclusion of any round bar in an aero test.

My guess is they probably test slower than the enve bars, but they're probably more comfy and sustainable holding an aero hoods position.

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