Cannondale SuperSix Evo4

[C36]

So BI is a line that existed since the caad7 usually the top of the line built.
- evo1 Bi is an exception with different frame, lighter and flexier
- evo2 Bi is the same evo2HM frame but was their top of the line built. The one displayed here is rim brake.

I will give you the evo2HM disc numbers once home, on top of my head the HT was brutally stiff like in the 120N/mm range.

[rayrick]

Some awfully nice bikes (Dogma F, MVDP Aeroad) with a fork stiffness in the same neighborhood and the Evo4. If it's good enough for MVDP, it's good enough for me!

[C36]

First, thinking the pro use the same layup is erroneous, I saw f12 made by Sarto rather than the Asian factories, Supersix from EF with different BB with full aluminium insert, Lapierre with thicker HT and Sl7 with weird weights.

The aeroad is super stiff from the HT so even if frame and fork behaves as springs in serie, it helps compensating.

For the SSevo4 I am still very curious where the change in philosophy came from…

[S6ED]

I will give you the evo2HM disc numbers once home, on top of my head the HY was brutally stiff like in the 120N/mm range.

Thanks

Edit: Just checked the Sarto site. Nice bikes. I must admit, I was not aware of this company.

So you reckon they do make famesets for other brands, as in the case of Pinarello.

[OUGrad05]

I distinctly remember some brands saying that beyond 65n/mm BB stiffness was detrimental to ride feel and that 55-60 was the ideal range.

I guess people here are complaining mostly about front end (lack of) stiffness. I've heard other places talk about disc rub when out of the saddle also.

That's interesting, I haven't noticed that yet, I have noticed that on my foil and it's noticeably stiffer. I think wheels might have more to do with that?

[S6ED]

I distinctly remember some brands saying that beyond 65n/mm BB stiffness was detrimental to ride feel and that 55-60 was the ideal range.

I guess people here are complaining mostly about front end (lack of) stiffness. I've heard other places talk about disc rub when out of the saddle also.

That's interesting, I haven't noticed that yet, I have noticed that on my foil and it's noticeably stiffer. I think wheels might have more to do with that?

As noted in a post above, I do sometimes get disc rub with my 2017 Evo Hi-Mod Disc when out of the saddle in steep hair pins. But I think it has a lot to do with how well the front caliper functions, i.e. it the pistons retract fully alowwing for break pad clearance. If the pistons are full of brake pad dust and grime and don't fully retract, rub occurs often; if everything is clean and break pad clearance is as it should, then there's hardly any rub. Thickness of rotor and pads (new vs used) also plays a role. All that with Dura-Ace 9100 calipers etc.

[justkeepedaling]

So BI is a line that existed since the caad7 usually the top of the line built.
- evo1 Bi is an exception with different frame, lighter and flexier
- evo2 Bi is the same evo2HM frame but was their top of the line built. The one displayed here is rim brake.

I will give you the evo2HM disc numbers once home, on top of my head the HT was brutally stiff like in the 120N/mm range.

I'm buying Evo2 Bi very soon, stoked that stiffness and especially comfort is super good. Coming off my CAAD10, it's going to feel like riding on silk.

Surprised by the weights though. It's only 30 grams lighter than a SSE4 frame?

[S6ED]

So BI is a line that existed since the caad7 usually the top of the line built.
- evo1 Bi is an exception with different frame, lighter and flexier
- evo2 Bi is the same evo2HM frame but was their top of the line built. The one displayed here is rim brake.

I will give you the evo2HM disc numbers once home, on top of my head the HT was brutally stiff like in the 120N/mm range.

I'm buying Evo2 Bi very soon, stoked that stiffness and especially comfort is super good. Coming off my CAAD10, it's going to feel like riding on silk.

Surprised by the weights though. It's only 30 grams lighter than a SSE4 frame?

Are you buying disc or rim?

Regardless, you'll be able to use the SiSL2 crank (unfortunately not compatible with the SSE4), which is super stiff and at least 120g lighter than the new Dura-Ace crank. And also looks better.

[LedZeppelin007]

Rode my SSE4 today in a hilly Fondo.

Observations:

-Rough pavement, handled quite well
-Very fast, nice and responsive
-Great in or out of the saddle
-Appreciated the less stiff front end
-Still haven’t gotten completely used to the handling, almost overshot a corner!
-Really does feel like an aero bike in a lightweight bike’s skin
-Overall, I like it better than the SL7 and think it’s a better bike
-I used, and like, the Cannondale aero bottles.

It was oddly the only SSE4 I saw. Plenty of Pinarellos and SL7 S-Works.

99% of the people there were overgeared. People will never learn. A lot were completely gassed by the last timed segment due to grinding out a never-ending supply of short, but steep, pitches. The Cannondale just loved cruising by folks grunting 50-something RPM in its 1:1 ratio at 90rpm.


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[justkeepedaling]

So BI is a line that existed since the caad7 usually the top of the line built.
- evo1 Bi is an exception with different frame, lighter and flexier
- evo2 Bi is the same evo2HM frame but was their top of the line built. The one displayed here is rim brake.

I will give you the evo2HM disc numbers once home, on top of my head the HT was brutally stiff like in the 120N/mm range.

I'm buying Evo2 Bi very soon, stoked that stiffness and especially comfort is super good. Coming off my CAAD10, it's going to feel like riding on silk.

Surprised by the weights though. It's only 30 grams lighter than a SSE4 frame?

Are you buying disc or rim?

Regardless, you'll be able to use the SiSL2 crank (unfortunately not compatible with the SSE4), which is super stiff and at least 120g lighter than the new Dura-Ace crank. And also looks better.

It's rim brake, already comes with SISL2 but this one has a Quarq so it doesn't have the Spidering, too bad. Praxis rings ain't bad at all though

I picked up a Gen 1 Himod last week for pennies, it's amazing, but needs some minor fixing up.

SSE4 will probably be in my cards in a few years, lol

[Spinnekop]

The Conceal has a recess on the bottom of the extension, as well as a cable guide, so the brake lines appear to be fully internal when in reality they're not. See pic from an earlier thread

You can run the cables INSIDE the stem, no problem.
The pic that you have quoted is just a lazy way of assembly out of the factory. Just reroute it through the stem.

[alanyu]

I'm wondering if anyone here has recieved a LAB 71. All I see in the real world is HM and Carbon...

[njleach]

I'm wondering if anyone here has recieved a LAB 71. All I see in the real world is HM and Carbon...

Ordered the frameset shortly after the announcement and ETA is ~September 2023 (to Australia)

[alanyu]

I'm wondering if anyone here has recieved a LAB 71. All I see in the real world is HM and Carbon...

Ordered the frameset shortly after the announcement and ETA is ~September 2023 (to Australia)

My ETA was mid April, but the order was cut due to the low production and the shop can't assure on new ETA now. If it will be at least Sept., I will cancel it for SL8...

[swat]

Received the LAB71 in may in size 56. I got Vision ACR 5d installed but wondering if Deda or some other handlebar would be better in terms of stiffness, weight and aesthetics? any suggestions?