Elilee XXE Crankset

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kode54
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by kode54

When will the XXE carbon spindle crank be available?
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isehk
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by isehk

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Ok some real experience with this crank
I spwan it from Incolor Skypivot (old generation) to this Elilee XXE crank.

It is so much stiffer. I think it is stiffer than the Shimano R8000 crank too.

The weight is :
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172.5mm + 110mm bcd 4 arm
So far so good
I also riding with the Elilee X46 wheelset.

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RDY
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by RDY

How about heel clearance? Since supposedly they're just straight.

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C36
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by C36

isehk wrote: Ok some real experience with this crank
I spwan it from Incolor Skypivot (old generation) to this Elilee XXE crank.

It is so much stiffer. I think it is stiffer than the Shimano R8000 crank too.
Well at least they exist and thanks for the feedback.
Obviously difficult to assess stiffness, there is a mix of real feeling, placebo effect or simply measuring a variable that was not intended (rings for example) but I have a hard time with all the Chinese lab tests claims. It’s another version of the specialized white paper claims with graph without scales. The Skypivot were supposed to be the absolute stiffest and just to be able to feel a difference probably means they were far from it.
As much as I would like those options to be good, unless there is a real lab test I would take their nice looking test with little trust.

isehk
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by isehk

RDY wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:47 pm
How about heel clearance? Since supposedly they're just straight.
My pedals is favero assioma with xpedo thrust sl body. The offset is so high so I have no heel clearance problem.

But the crank are not straight. It bend a bit

isehk
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by isehk

C36 wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:48 pm
isehk wrote: Ok some real experience with this crank
I spwan it from Incolor Skypivot (old generation) to this Elilee XXE crank.

It is so much stiffer. I think it is stiffer than the Shimano R8000 crank too.
Well at least they exist and thanks for the feedback.
Obviously difficult to assess stiffness, there is a mix of real feeling, placebo effect or simply measuring a variable that was not intended (rings for example) but I have a hard time with all the Chinese lab tests claims. It’s another version of the specialized white paper claims with graph without scales. The Skypivot were supposed to be the absolute stiffest and just to be able to feel a difference probably means they were far from it.
As much as I would like those options to be good, unless there is a real lab test I would take their nice looking test with little trust.
I only change the crank arm & spider, Chainring & Bottom bracket unchange

The Skypivot is not that stiff I think, compare with R8000.
This XXE crank is way stiffer

But yes, this is totally subjective.

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C36
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by C36

Do you know how much the spider weight ? What axle do you have?

isehk
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by isehk

C36 wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:09 pm
Do you know how much the spider weight ? What axle do you have?
47g for aluminium 110mm bcd 4arm
There are also 5 arm versions, aluminium or carbon
But only aluminium verion available now
Also there is 4 small holes on the spider for you to attach the spider cover for matching shimano chainring.
BTW, you can use Easton spider with it. It is also raceface standard.

I am using the 28mm axle version, My SEKA exceed RDC is using T47 ridea gecko bb

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by wheelsONfire

Worst thing with these imports (Asia to EU or USA) is if something turns into a warranty case.
Shipping is complicated with papers proving you paid taxes, the shipping fee yada yada.
Easton and Rotor is such known brands they're represented.
No way anyone here would say Easton EC90 is a crankarm with half ass stiffness.
I would like to get Rotor, but at 43.5mm chainline i'm inclinced to go for the 46mm (offset version).
Red crank have 45mm chainline and FSA 44.5mm. Easton also have 45mm.
I think these small offsets seems to work better with Sram.
I also use a 46mm chainline on my gravel bike with Shimano and it works better than Shimanos original crankset.
I had severe issues with chaindrops with Shimanos own crank.
I wonder if these Asian brands had been in league with an European dealer it had been easier.

I can just imagine if inserts come off, cracks in crankarms, torn threads yada yada.
It's all good until (and IF) something happens.
Not to be cynical, but things do happen.
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by MagicShite

C36 wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:48 pm
isehk wrote: Ok some real experience with this crank
I spwan it from Incolor Skypivot (old generation) to this Elilee XXE crank.

It is so much stiffer. I think it is stiffer than the Shimano R8000 crank too.
Well at least they exist and thanks for the feedback.
Obviously difficult to assess stiffness, there is a mix of real feeling, placebo effect or simply measuring a variable that was not intended (rings for example) but I have a hard time with all the Chinese lab tests claims. It’s another version of the specialized white paper claims with graph without scales. The Skypivot were supposed to be the absolute stiffest and just to be able to feel a difference probably means they were far from it.
As much as I would like those options to be good, unless there is a real lab test I would take their nice looking test with little trust.
If you pay attention to the trends of real life feedback vs lab tests, one can infer that after a certain point, it really isn't something you could feel accurately.

The SRAM Red cranks are one of the softest cranks in lab test but no one really ever complains how soft they are. There's a lot of things at play that makes it quite hard to nail the subjective vs objective correlation.

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by Pyotrump

isehk wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:59 pm
RDY wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:47 pm
How about heel clearance? Since supposedly they're just straight.
My pedals is favero assioma with xpedo thrust sl body. The offset is so high so I have no heel clearance problem.

But the crank are not straight. It bend a bit
I also have thrust sl and assioma. How did you deal with the increased Q factor?

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by MrStop

This crank seems a bit hard to find, although I did find a listing on Aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.us/item/32568048 ... _shipto=US. The price appears a bit high when you can pick up a Sram Red dub crank for similar.

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by BigBoyND

Yeah no way I'd pick this over Red DUB
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isehk
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by isehk

Pyotrump wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:22 am
isehk wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:59 pm
RDY wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:47 pm
How about heel clearance? Since supposedly they're just straight.
My pedals is favero assioma with xpedo thrust sl body. The offset is so high so I have no heel clearance problem.

But the crank are not straight. It bend a bit
I also have thrust sl and assioma. How did you deal with the increased Q factor?
I just adjust the cleats on my shoes....that's enough...

Pyotrump
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by Pyotrump

isehk wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:22 pm
Pyotrump wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 7:22 am
isehk wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:59 pm
RDY wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:47 pm
How about heel clearance? Since supposedly they're just straight.
My pedals is favero assioma with xpedo thrust sl body. The offset is so high so I have no heel clearance problem.

But the crank are not straight. It bend a bit
I also have thrust sl and assioma. How did you deal with the increased Q factor?
I just adjust the cleats on my shoes....that's enough...

Wuhuh.. I measured the difference and it was almost 4.5mm. Thanks anyway.

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