2021 Canyon Aeroad

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steve1094
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by steve1094

Mick1508 wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:55 pm
LancashireDry wrote:
Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:08 pm
Anyone else notice that MVDP wasn't using the new seatpost sleeve today?

Does this mean the sleeve and rubber gasket is a modification to cover existing frames and there will be a new frame to achieve the original 'visual' design intent?
I certainly hope that the new frames that are (supposedly!) about to become available don't use the sleeve. Does anyone know? If they do need the sleeve, you would expect they would update the photos on the website to show customers what they are actually going to deliver.
MvdP wasn't riding his usual light blue bike on Sunday. I suspect the white bike was an older frame with the modified handlebars fitted so the cables could be routed internally, but was not fitted with the seatpost modification. I'm pretty sure all Aeroads from now on (until they release a totally new model) will have the modified seatpost.

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steve1094
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by steve1094

LancashireDry wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:51 pm
Also interesting that the MVDP bike in the video shows the 'sleeve' protruding above the top tube. I guess the rubber gasket is to hide it, as to me it looks like a poor fit/unfinished.
The sleeve slightly protruding above the top tube to give the base of the rubber gasket something to "hook" over and stop it rising up. This will improve resistance to water and dirt ingress. When the seal is in place, you won't see the sleeve protruding as it'll be hidden under the base of the gasket. I'm waiting to get my SLX modified at the moment but will post some detailed pics of how it works when the bike is returned.

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by koene

Indeed it seems like that, ty threefootlongbeaver! There is a hole here https://i.imgur.com/ndFhTdV.jpg but I have no idea what the function is of it. Anyone knows?

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koene wrote:Indeed it seems like that, ty threefootlongbeaver! There is a hole here https://i.imgur.com/ndFhTdV.jpg but I have no idea what the function is of it. Anyone knows?
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by Aerohead23

steve1094 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:11 am
LancashireDry wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:51 pm
Also interesting that the MVDP bike in the video shows the 'sleeve' protruding above the top tube. I guess the rubber gasket is to hide it, as to me it looks like a poor fit/unfinished.
The sleeve slightly protruding above the top tube to give the base of the rubber gasket something to "hook" over and stop it rising up. This will improve resistance to water and dirt ingress. When the seal is in place, you won't see the sleeve protruding as it'll be hidden under the base of the gasket. I'm waiting to get my SLX modified at the moment but will post some detailed pics of how it works when the bike is returned.
I think i speak on behalf of anyone waiting on an order to say we would greatly appreaciate the pics of the mod beneath the gasket.
Really would help us decide to keep the order or not.
Thank you in advance

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by tomtom

koene wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:18 pm
hi all, I have a question regarding the cp10 cockpit which is on the aeroad cf sl 2021. I'm looking to replace it but before I do, I would like to know if anyone could tell me whether the cables pass through the bar or not. If they don't pass through, it would make replacing it with a different cockpit a lot more eaesy (just loosen the shifters and reattach). From the bottom of the bar it looks like they go in the bar but I can't tell for sure because off the bar tape..
I have a similar setup which is shown here:
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They don't, they run completely outside the bars
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steve1094
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Aerohead23 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:35 am
steve1094 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:11 am
LancashireDry wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:51 pm
Also interesting that the MVDP bike in the video shows the 'sleeve' protruding above the top tube. I guess the rubber gasket is to hide it, as to me it looks like a poor fit/unfinished.
The sleeve slightly protruding above the top tube to give the base of the rubber gasket something to "hook" over and stop it rising up. This will improve resistance to water and dirt ingress. When the seal is in place, you won't see the sleeve protruding as it'll be hidden under the base of the gasket. I'm waiting to get my SLX modified at the moment but will post some detailed pics of how it works when the bike is returned.
I think i speak on behalf of anyone waiting on an order to say we would greatly appreaciate the pics of the mod beneath the gasket.
Really would help us decide to keep the order or not.
Thank you in advance
Absolutely - I'll post some detailed photos of the new seatpost insert and gasket and how the two interface together when the bike is returned to me.

To all those who are undecided about whether to cancel their orders, I'm happy to share some opinions on the bike. I've been riding my 2021 Aeroad CF SLX throughout the summer (I decided to take the risk figuring there's more chance of being knocked of my bike by a driver than having the handlebar snap) and have covered almost 4,000 highly enjoyable miles with this incredible machine, including five 100+ mile rides. The blend of speed, comfort and sharp handling has continued to impress me and, to my eye at least, it's a great looking bike. I'm fortunate to also have an Ultimate CF SL and the Aeroad is noticeably quicker, even on hilly routes, with only marginally less comfort. The Aeroad loves a bit of a crosswind and I've definitely experienced the "sail effect" that the Canyon engineers spoke about at the launch event. So, in summary, even with the handlebar and seatpost issues - that will now be fixed by Canyon - I have zero regrets about buying the bike and look forward to many more happy miles!

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by solotalent

Brought my aeroad CFR etap in yesterday for the seat post / drop bar fix. Received an e-mail today that during a global inspection they noticed a problem with the frame and needs to be replaced now which will probably take several weeks. They did not say anything about what the problem was.
I love the bike and don't complain about the service, but it is hard to gain confidence in the engineering quality of this bike...

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by CarlosTheJackal

solotalent wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 pm
Brought my aeroad CFR etap in yesterday for the seat post / drop bar fix. Received an e-mail today that during a global inspection they noticed a problem with the frame and needs to be replaced now which will probably take several weeks. They did not say anything about what the problem was.
I love the bike and don't complain about the service, but it is hard to gain confidence in the engineering quality of this bike...
I thought they had fixed this now and were going for full production

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by EsotericCyclist

solotalent wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 pm
Brought my aeroad CFR etap in yesterday for the seat post / drop bar fix. Received an e-mail today that during a global inspection they noticed a problem with the frame and needs to be replaced now which will probably take several weeks. They did not say anything about what the problem was.
I love the bike and don't complain about the service, but it is hard to gain confidence in the engineering quality of this bike...
It could be the chainstay issue that me and another forum member had a problem with. Atleast they are giving the frame a thourough examination before returning it to customers, and if a problem arises they are replacing the framing proacively. Also, if you're getting a new frame, this means that the seatpost fix will already be done to it from the factory and your seatpost tube won't have to be dremeled out. :thumbup:

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by threefootlongbeaver

solotalent wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 pm
Brought my aeroad CFR etap in yesterday for the seat post / drop bar fix. Received an e-mail today that during a global inspection they noticed a problem with the frame and needs to be replaced now which will probably take several weeks. They did not say anything about what the problem was.
I love the bike and don't complain about the service, but it is hard to gain confidence in the engineering quality of this bike...
I'd say this actually vouches for Canyon. They could have simply replaced the cockpit and seatpost and have sent it back. Instead they chose to thoroughly check all incoming bikes for possible issues. It seems to me that they want to prevent more problems down the road which is the smart thing to do

solotalent
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by solotalent

threefootlongbeaver wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:42 am
solotalent wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 pm
Brought my aeroad CFR etap in yesterday for the seat post / drop bar fix. Received an e-mail today that during a global inspection they noticed a problem with the frame and needs to be replaced now which will probably take several weeks. They did not say anything about what the problem was.
I love the bike and don't complain about the service, but it is hard to gain confidence in the engineering quality of this bike...
I'd say this actually vouches for Canyon. They could have simply replaced the cockpit and seatpost and have sent it back. Instead they chose to thoroughly check all incoming bikes for possible issues. It seems to me that they want to prevent more problems down the road which is the smart thing to do
I definitely agree that this vouches for their service, but that has never really been an issue to me. In my opinion, they've done a good job in providing a suitable and fast (given the circumstances) solution for the problems accompanying the new aeroad, including a welcome 1300 euro refund.
Still three engineering problems for a bike in this price category, with all the engineering experience Canyon has (it's not like this is their first built bike), should not be possible. Hopefully this will be the last fix...

RichBUK
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by RichBUK

I've got my bike back today with the two fixes. I've not taken the gasket off to look deeply inside but nothing much to add. Here's some pics before assembly.
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New assembly guide with a new page for the new post, also a wrap around the bar with the same set of illustrations about no paste/ front lean insertion of the post etc.

A little bit pornhub really these pictures.

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by henau212

RichBUK wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:04 pm
I've got my bike back today with the two fixes. I've not taken the gasket off to look deeply inside but nothing much to add. Here's some pics before assembly.

IMG_0674.jpeg
IMG_0673.jpeg
IMG_0676.jpeg
IMG_0677.jpeg

New assembly guide with a new page for the new post, also a wrap around the bar with the same set of illustrations about no paste/ front lean insertion of the post etc.

A little bit pornhub really these pictures.
I love the bike, will keep the bike, but I do not like the solution.. I hope they will find a better one going forward since the upcoming Ultimate/Endurace are rumored to be using non standard seatpost profiles as well.

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by spartacus

RichBUK wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:04 pm
I've got my bike back today with the two fixes. I've not taken the gasket off to look deeply inside but nothing much to add. Here's some pics before assembly.

IMG_0674.jpeg
IMG_0673.jpeg
IMG_0676.jpeg
IMG_0677.jpeg

New assembly guide with a new page for the new post, also a wrap around the bar with the same set of illustrations about no paste/ front lean insertion of the post etc.

A little bit pornhub really these pictures.
It just seems weird to have a wet, flexing hole on a bike (like a joint or something).

Anyway so what exactly did they do? Make the hole bigger so the post doesn't rub, then add a gasket?

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