KB wrote: ultimobici wrote:
Ahillock wrote: I absolutely despise how certain riders that have been doping and been busted/admit to afterwards, get a free pass because they are 'likeable' or a 'nice guy.' However certain dopers (LA, Ricco, DiLuca, Rasmussen...etc.) are hated because they aren't 'likeable' or a 'nice guy.' Ryder should get the same punishment that LA. That is one thing that stinks like a outhouse within cycling, the disproportionate punishments that vary across the sport. The punishments need to be universal and consistent. Regardless of how big of a star you are or how well liked you are.
While I agree with you in the first paragraph of your post, I have to take issue with your second. LA and to the others are not only serial offenders but also, at least in LA's case, manipulated, coerced & bullied all & sundry in the course of concealing their doping. That in itself is what brought about the punishment LA received.
Disagree. The punishment for a doping offence is supposed to be two years. It's not supposed to be based on how good or bad someone is as a person. For me, Hillock got it exactly right. The six month punishments that others received is completely wrong IMO. I don't disagree that LA behaved badly. But if you take drugs you're no better or worse than anyone else. And as TP pointed in his link, the hypocrisy is sickening.
RH, for the time being at least, cannot be banned. His admission relates to an offence outside the SOL.
There is a difference between the likes of LA, Ricco, Di Luca et al and the riders who testified and received 6 month bans. The former have been caught multiple times and, in LA's case, have been enabler/coercer in others doping. In addition he refused to cooperate, trying to derail proceedings.
The testimony of those riders paved the way to LA's exposure, the revelations about the UCI and McQuaid's ousting. That has to be worth a substantial reduction in my opinion. That said, I feel all bans should be effective during the season, rather than during the winter.
RH's situation is more problematic. He claims he only doped 8 + years ago. I don't buy that at all. But unfortunately, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, there's nothing to answer.