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djconnel wrote:Ryder was DNF at the 2004 Olympic cross-country.
There is a notable lack of scandals among the top riders, in contrast to the results of any road race at the time. Was mountain biking mostly clean?
A good friend of mine at the time was British XC champ and a former medallist at Junior Level Worlds.
He quit because he could not break into the top 50 without resorting to illegal means.
RH should be banned and Garmin should dispense with his services. He had the chance to come clean with Vaughters years ago and seemingly chose not to.
dj97223 wrote:He admitted it immediately . . . after being outed.
According to the articles, he admitted his use to USADA nearly a year ago. Maybe he didn't come clean publicly until now, but he did so with the people who hold his racing future in their hands some time ago. I suspect, once he made his admission to anti-doping officials, he had to know it was only a matter of time before it would become public... regardless of accusations from former racers.
None of us knows what he did or did not tell Garmin. Garmin seems to have a history of taking former/reformed dopers and putting/keeping them on a clean trajectory. Perhaps Garmin knew all along about his doping past and felt it best to let the past remain in the past. I don't know. Speculating...
edit- the part that stinks is his 'Stuey' like confession and the fact that his admission conveniently came more than 8 years ago when he spoke to the authorities. I think he should put his hand up and serve 6 months like the others. Again, as I've harped for ages on this forum, we desperately TnC to level the timing and the field here.
I am talking about Boonen, Cancelara, Evans, Horner etc. They all doped during that time, but have not been outed so why should they come forward.
Same thing with Cadel Evans, I don't think he was clean when he was racing Mtb and certainly not when he raced for Mapei, or was leading the Giro for T-mobile. I do believe he was clean when he won the Tour, but why should he or any one else who competed in those times come clean? Let's just assume that everyone was on something during that time, unless everyone comes clean now, don't see why the ones that get outed, are regarded as the bad ones, but if you cheated back then and are still racing and have not been outed, you are fine.
The Ryder case is especially interesting for me because I grew up racing/training with him. He clearly was an incredibly gifted athlete but you knew that the years at USPS/Phonak and his MTB results in a dirty era represented certain decisions. What is often missed though in these stories about guys being 'immersed in doping' are the guys who chose not to that he was competing with nationally for Olympic and National Team spots and most importantly funding. I got some interesting messages yesterday. A friend and former national MTB champ commented on years where he missed out on Canadian Gov't funding known as 'carding' that is awarded to support a handful of the country's top amateur athletes. That guy who chose do do things correctly missed out on funding and possible trips to the Olympics and is now out of the sport. That is the worst part of it. Will Routley is another example of that and wrote this article when the USADA 'confessions' came out.
toronto-rider wrote:IF someone who thinks that he should be banned, how do you explain all the people that doped during that era, are now (I hope) riding clean and make millions of $. Do you expect them just to come forward and say I doped.
Can't disagree with that.
The thing that irks me is the bullshit they all spout about how the truth will help the sport move forward, and that they're happy to help the authorities push for a better future, world peace, and fluffy kittens.
If you're going to keep your lies under wraps for your own gain. STFU when you're outed and f*** off.
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