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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:04 pm
by ichobi
No one talks about Wiggin's planned retirement and semi confession that he couldn't stand being second fiddle yet?

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/a ... k-olympics" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:04 pm
by Weenie

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:47 pm
by xnavalav8r
xnavalav8r wrote:I was in Sittard for the Stage 5 time trial of the ENECO Tour. I thought it was interesting to hear Wiggins say that he intends to return his focus to racing on the track.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/return-to-tour-de-france-unlikely-for-wiggins


Days ago...

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:49 pm
by btompkins0112
Wiggins who? Old news.....someone take that horse out back and put it out of its misery :sarcasm:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:16 pm
by ave
djconnel wrote:Talansky also lost 5 minutes. Guys coming off a post-Tour recovery weren't ready for the anaerobic intensity, it seems.


Really? What was Sagan doing? I'd think he was doing post Tour crits as well.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:18 pm
by 53x12
+1 Exactly ave. Plus these guys are pros. Not your weekend cat 4 warrior.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:41 pm
by djm
Aren't post Tour crits a joke anyway? Not really comparable to racing at altitude in Colorado.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:51 pm
by fa63
ave wrote:
djconnel wrote:Talansky also lost 5 minutes. Guys coming off a post-Tour recovery weren't ready for the anaerobic intensity, it seems.


Really? What was Sagan doing? I'd think he was doing post Tour crits as well.


Sagan mentioned in his post-race interview that he has been training in Colorado for the last two weeks, presumably to get used to the altitude so it sounds like he is taking the race more seriously than some.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:56 pm
by petepeterson
Yes really - it's pretty basic stuff that one would take a physical and mental break after the tour. Those who did so would just be starting back up now. Maybe google "periodization".

Explain to me how being a pro changes the fact that you cannot be on top form all year despite what Tim K may say. Because they are pros they are supposed to be flying year round? Sagan's level now and consistency since the spring is insane; he is the outlier from the rest of 'the pros'.

Lastly it's silly to compare programs/fitness for GC guys focused primarily on the tour vs. sprinter's ...

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:26 am
by jmilliron
How about that Lachlan dude? He seems cool and is doing well at altitude. He's the kind of bicycle racing I like to see.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:36 am
by KWalker
Guy is like hipster meets road racer.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:00 am
by ichobi
His 'tache is a bit much imo.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:25 am
by Murphs
KB wrote:Henao designated as team leader for the Vuelta even though Uran is also down to ride, which maybe suggests the latter is choosing it as training for the Worlds. No Wiggins or Froome; that was expected.


Makes more sense to support the guy who isn't leaving

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:41 am
by xnavalav8r
I agree... Sagan's two weeks of preparation in Colorado have given him a serious advantage over those who chose to "recover" from the Tour. A couple post-Tour crits, and some training at sea level are not going to prepare even the most talented pro for racing at altitude in the Rockies. I've seen very talented athletes, far more fit than I, develop symptoms of altitude sickness from simply climbing stairs during their first couple days above 10,000 feet. It may be that Sagan is simply smarter than his peers and colleagues in the peloton... not just more talented.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:03 am
by Tinea Pedis
jmilliron wrote:How about that Lachlan dude? He seems cool and is doing well at altitude. He's the kind of bicycle racing I like to see.

Stoked for the kid. One hell of a rider. I know a guy who was with him in the break up the climb in the 2011 Grafton to Inverell. Was told by his DS not to pull, his reply "I can't!". Lachie sat on the front and motored the whole break up and over the climb, without pretty much anyone swapping off with him :lol:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:03 am
by Weenie

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:02 am
by ultyguy
HammerTime2 wrote:Well, Tom Danielson and Tyler Hamilton are among past winners of Tour of Quinhai Lake. I wonder if their "help"
is particularly helpful at high altitude?


Fair enough, I guess I chose a not too great example, but I was pointing more that everything there ends with very small time differences.

Remember, Sagan is A#1 Cannondale boy now and ToC and Colorado are the biggest races in the home country of his sponsor.