Page 1147 of 1889

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:04 pm
by Rob81
could BW be the rumoured "passport" guy?
source:http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-2/

My bet was on Cobo, Basso, Menchov or Scarponi...

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:16 pm
by xnavalav8r
KWalker wrote:I guess none of us realize that Hansen hasn't read this forum or posted on it in quite a long, long time.

He reads it from time to time. I got a PM from him a few months ago...

Re:

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:30 pm
by ultimobici
btompkins0112 wrote:I think that's kinda the point.....the team was a bunch of dopers, and he is saying that Sir Wiggo was not the exception.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Nope, that is not what he says at all.

The article reports his comments on riders leaving Cofidis, where they had body fat levels of 5-6%, and then losing weight. They then point out that the problem with Boyer is that he presided over riders at Cofidis who were doping on the team and were caught.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:33 pm
by KWalker
Menchov has been under investigation or on suspicion lists for almost 2 years- my guess is that its him.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:41 pm
by Liggero
Rob81 wrote:could BW be the rumoured "passport" guy?
source:http://cyclingtips.com.au/2013/05/the-secret-pro-2/

My bet was on Cobo, Basso, Menchov or Scarponi...


I guess you mean the four of them, not just one. Those have mud til their necks.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 7:54 pm
by jooo
What a soap

I really don't know if I could pick just one :|

It wouldn't surprise me if it is Menchov. It would make the whole Katusha - UCI approval saga just that bit more well handled :lol:

I'd love for it to be Valverde though. Really dislike the guy

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:27 pm
by Rob81
OT
Yes could be all 4 of them: Basso (2010), Cobo and his Vuelta with climbing speed higher or on par with Contador, Menchov must have some good "protectors" during all these years, and Scarponi was almost fired by Lambre because something was cleraly smelling...but magically now he could be a contender for another Giro, and this's veeery odd....
/OT

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:30 pm
by tharmor
Wiggo has thrown in the towel and now this means that there is going to be another girlie soap opera leadin into and inevitably during the entire Tour de France. I used to worship Wiggins' ability. Now I just think he's a Divo.

I am, however, looking forward to the epic climbing battle set to unfold between Froome and Contador. It should be interesting to see TeeJay mix it up a bit too. Lastly, I shouldn't count out at least one or two epic break always containing Andy Schleck trying to frustrate the race for the GC.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:36 pm
by jooo
Rob81 wrote:OT
well Valverde never won a GC, so in this context he's out :)

The whole issue is very much on topic, like it or not.

How's your history?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Vuelta_a_Espana

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:40 pm
by Rob81
ops forgot 2009, but I don't think they'll go dig soo deep in past (Basso 2010 too)

"PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:42 pm
by btompkins0112
You don't think they'll dig deep into the past??!?? Have you missed some drama recently? (LA)

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:00 pm
by Liggero
LA issue was different, and anyways they broke the rules with lance; according to the rules, after a certain amount of years, your results can't be changed. That is why bjarne riis keeps his tour but LA doesn't.

Valverde was banned already, I don't think they will bother him again. Basso and Cipollini were on the juice, wether they say it or not, they both are in Puerto Operation. Apparently Eufemiano Fuentes, as has been already charged and he wont go to prison, he has nothing to loose now, he is going to confess all of his clients, not just a lot of cyclists, but lots of track and field athletes and a couple boxer and tennis players. And lots of soccer teams and players!!!!! They said in the spanish news that he is just waiting for a good amount of money for his confession, to cash some $.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:16 pm
by Rob81
LA was a big fish, someone to put on 1st pages
Menchov? Cobo? Birillo?...I don't think so.

But if it turns out it's Wiggins, then that's another LA...

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:34 pm
by ultimobici
Liggero wrote:LA issue was different, and anyways they broke the rules with lance; according to the rules, after a certain amount of years, your results can't be changed.

Suggest you read up first.
http://www.usada.org/default.asp?uid=3788
That's why his claim that the SOL applied failed.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:41 pm
by Liggero
ultimobici wrote:
Liggero wrote:LA issue was different, and anyways they broke the rules with lance; according to the rules, after a certain amount of years, your results can't be changed.

Suggest you read up first.
http://www.usada.org/default.asp?uid=3788" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's why his claim that the SOL applied failed.


USADA is from USA, rules do not apply to them, as we can read. They are over the rules, as I said. If you read it says that athlete X do not apply to the SOL because of his fraudulent behaviour... As if Bjarne Riis behaviour was not fraudulent... LOL Anyways, that SOL is quite a joke, ir makes no sense, and anyways, it's not applied. Not applied for some, applied for others, like Bjarne Riis.

I really hope Fausto Coppi get all his titles removed too.