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ave
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by ave

I can't remember who won in 1980, if that matters. ;)
I can't really remember Boonen's first years either, so I don't know if he was a marked man, and whether he won on brute strength, or because of good tactics, or because of superior team support.

Perhaps Sagan has racing expertise on the team support staff.

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by Epic-o

Fab is back

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by Wadl

I am pretty new to the road racing scene so I have to ask. You all say that Sagan has poor tactics and all but what should he have done if San Remo to win? what was a good tactic for him ??? because from what I saw, he was cornered from every side... From my point of view, he did a good race ...

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by ultyguy

Never should've chased Stannard (he was going so slow), shouldn't have tried his own move (he was the fastest sprinter), shouldn't have launched his sprint when Chava did, should've just gotten into his slipstream and waited a bit longer to launch his sprint.

Cancellara got in his head before the race.

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by KWalker

Sagan is sitting on the front just wasting energy right now doing the bulk of the pulling. Stupid- they're not catching Fabian so why dig super deep and waste energy? If they catch him then what, he's toasted for anything after.

A good display of poor Sagan tactics would be Flanders last year. I honestly think it comes down to the fact that his team isn't built for the classics and he has 0 experienced mentors to learn from. I don't get why he stays on Cannondale if those races are his goal.
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by shoopdawoop

good race Cancellara! E3 is his! Looked like they were going to bring him back for a second when they dropped 20 seconds from the gap and then it looked like Fabs realized and started doing tempo, instead of endurance, again haha. Looks so calm shredding the legs of the entire peloton!

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by KWalker

I will be really disappointed if it turns out he was one of the Fuentes clients as speculated.
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Wadl
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by Wadl

Thank you ultyguy. But what if he didn't chased Stannard, he could've lost the race there if Stannard was strong enough no ?

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by ultyguy

[armchair DS]I think the speed of any sprint would've probably caught Stannard when the sprint opened as he didn't attack with much speed anyways [/armchair DS]

All of that obviously much easier than being on the road for who knows how many hours after having to follow a leg ripping Cancellara attach on the Poggio and putting in a big effort on the descent. General feeling above that he needs the old head on the team is probably right. There's no one else Cannondale can buy that's going to be in those finales, but they can certainly tell him where to use his energy and where not too.

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by trychle

Does anyone know anything about those huge glasses Gustav Larsson is wearing?

Some sort of face protection..? :noidea:

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by djconnel

Don't forget Sagan did not want to be caught by a group with Cavendish, and nobody was going to just drag Sagan to the line. He had to take some initiative to keep the group away. He still would have won if he'd no underestimated Ciolek, who was 100-1 odds on the race so he was in good company in that regard.

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by russianbear

I think Cancellara has been laying low(well as low as he can) with the cobbled classics as his main goal. Sagan is becoming even more of a favorite in many people's eyes than Cancellara. Not to say that he's not a favorite anymore, certainly is, but his constant presence has made him fade into the background a little. This is good news for him.

Good to see him take the win today.

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by petepeterson

Cool for me to see Canadian guy Parisien win in Spain.

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by ave

So, what did Sagan wrong in E3? Even Cannondale wasn't that bad, they managed to round up 4-5 guys to pull back the break just in time before the Paterberg.
I was thinking he might have been OK with Oss (teammate last year) getting 2nd.

Anyhow, it was a good race!

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