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Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:26 am
by Monkeyboy3333

"PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:36 am
by Kjetil
Monkeyboy3333 wrote:JV vs JB, I'd be glad for them both to be out of the sport.
I'd keep JV in. For obvious reasons.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:54 pm
by HammerTime2
So Scarponi trained under Ferrari in September 2010, and then won the Giro d'Italia in 2011. So does Scarponi get to keep his Giro win? I suppose he should, since after all, perhaps Ferrari was just giving him advice on saddle positioning. Now Scarponi will have to pay the price with a 3 month suspension during the offest part of the off-season - bah-bye Tour Down Under, LOL - that'll learn him.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:25 pm
by Willier
Di luca riding Kyklos


Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:06 pm
by pastronef
Willier wrote:Di luca riding Kyklos


is that Cipo on the left with rainbow stripes?

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:40 pm
by tinchy
I reckon so, what is this event? Check out the big guy in the farnesse vini kit, not exactly slimming is it :smartass:

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:14 pm
by Willier
It is from granfongo Giro`d Italia Miami

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:27 pm
by tcurtbike
I remember reading somewhere that Danilo owns the Kyklos bike brand? I think it was Ride.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:41 pm
by HammerTime2 wrote:Di Luca - Kyklos Bikes

Over five years ago Italian professional road racer Danilo Di Luca started to design road bikes. His aim was to manufacture the best possible road bike for handling, comfort and looks. Apart from Danilo’s main passion of road racing, design has always been in his heart; Danilo trained as an engineer and an architect. With his years of riding and professional racing he is well equipped to design bikes.

In 2007 Danilo produced his first bike but he was not happy with the design so he shelved the project temporarily. In 2009 Danilo and his long term friend Francesco Di Ruscio (a former professional road racer) opened a bike shop in Pescara, Italy. Danilo started to design frames again and “Kyklos” was born.

The process

After the design of the frame has been drawn, Danilo has the frame carved in wood by one of his artist friends; the frame is then visually checked by Danilo and his brother who is also an architect for the overall look. It is then made into a mould and a frame is cast. The frame is then EN tested to ensure it meets all the usual safety standards; in fact Kyklos frames always exceed the safety standards. After this, Francesco rides the bike and then passes it on to Stefano Guiliano (Danilo’s father in law). Stefano has won the green jersey in the Giro Italia and numerous stages’ in professional races, so is also well placed to judge a bike. If Stefano is pleased with the bike at this stage, Danilo will return home from his racing commitments to test the bike. Danilo then hands the bike over to one of his professional racing friends (Petacchi to name one) for his input. And finally, if the bike has impressed Danilo and each of Danilo’s team, it is then put into production.

The passion and real life testing behind Kyklos is second to none in the world.
Oh, and free vial of CERA with every frame purchase - Danilo has some left over that he's not been able to use.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:57 pm
by ultyguy
Sounds like JB is going to shovel some sh!t on JV. JB has the keys to take down much more than just Armstrong I reckon. I bet he's making sure people know this behind the scenes right now before he goes infront of USADA.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:38 pm
by pastronef

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:13 pm
by ultyguy
Oh Oscarito, don't tell me your backtracking your anti-doping stance so quickly just cause you've been linked to the job of head coach for the national team.... ... -armstrong

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:24 pm
by nathanong87
"we've all passed the same controls" in pro terms just means "i doped, but to the acceptable UCI level... " sigh.

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:07 pm
by ultyguy
You have GOT to be kidding me, a doping hotline? Pat, you are a revoluationary....

And not to implicate Cav, Phil or Wiggo, but he gave cover probably 3 of the most 5 important riders in the sport, what if (and there is no evidence here, really just a what if) they then test positive. Is this not exactly what got us into this mess? I am beside myself. :doh:

The UCI is a complete joke and hungry business vultures are circling.

Sent by email only

Aigle, 9 November 2012

Ref: Presidency

I would like to take this opportunity to update you on the latest developments and decisions we have taken in response to the current crisis in our sport.

You will have seen in recent media reports that Philippe Gilbert, Mark Cavendish and Bradley Wiggins among many others have been strong voices in telling the world that today’s cycling is cleaner than ever before. Of course, they are right. You, today’s riders not only participate in the most innovative and effective anti-doping programs in sport but above all you have understood which choice to make for your career and for your sport. The result is that our sport is cleaner.

Actually the UCI has always been a pioneer in the fight against doping, a fact recognized by WADA and the IOC among others. We pride ourselves on the fact that we were the first sport to introduce a whole range of scientific measures as tools in this fight. These include the haematocrit test, the EPO tests, the homologous blood transfusion test and the blood passport, which I do not need to tell you about, as you are in the front line and have been overwhelmingly supportive of these initiatives. We are aware that this extensive anti-doping program causes much inconvenience for you, and we thank you for having accepted the hassle for the greater good of cycling.

Nevertheless, when we read in the USADA dossier that Lance Armstrong and others were able to use doping throughout their careers, we have to admit that the tests provided by the scientific community were simply not adequate enough to combat the problem.

Therefore we must all continue to work to keep improving the culture in cycling through education, prevention and as far as you are concerned by making the one choice that counts. At the end of the day it is you the riders who have the ultimate say about whether our sport is clean.

Naturally, we need to do more to ensure that the UCI is as accessible as possible, and in particular to you the riders, should you wish to discuss issues or concerns relating to doping. That is why, during the coming weeks, also after a small time frame to set up the logistical side, the UCI will be looking into establishing a new open line – a confidential ‘hotline’. We will be sending more information about this once in place. I know that it will take some time to build trust and confidence in this new line of communication, but I am confident that, with the best intentions from both sides, we can build that trust. And by doing so, we will accelerate the change in culture that we need in our sport.

We are aware that some riders have complained publicly that despite having shared knowledge with the UCI, there was an inadequate follow up. I would like to take this opportunity to assure you that the UCI did act on information provided in the past and it will always do so in the future, within the bounds of what is legally feasible.

Clearly the UCI has to work within the rules and in particular in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code. At this time the rules do not allow general amnesties but the current review of the World Anti- Doping Code may provide different possibilities in the future. The rules do currently allow reduced penalties. We are aware, and doing the utmost to address your proposals/needs in the effort to do the best by our sport.

As far as repairing the reputation of our sport, I would like to add that the UCI has listened to the world’s reaction to the Lance Armstrong affair and it has taken – and will continue to take – decisive steps in response to all matters raised.

To make sure that the UCI and cycling can move forward with the confidence of all parties, we are now establishing a fully Independent Commission to look into the findings of the USADA report and make recommendations to enable the UCI to restore confidence in the sport of cycling. John Coates, the President of the International Council of Arbitration for Sport (ICAS), has agreed to recommend the composition and membership of the Independent Commission. The UCI has already begun contacting the people Mr. Coates has nominated. The names of the panel members will be announced as soon as the Commission is convened. The Commission’s final report and recommendations will be published no later than 1 June 2013 – and you can be confident that the UCI will take whatever actions are deemed necessary to put cycling back on track. We are confident that the Commission will conclude that the UCI has been one of the strongest of all sporting federations in fighting doping in sport for many years.

As part of the effort to eradicate doping from our sport the UCI has made a considerable investment in education and implementation of the True Champion or Cheat program, the ‘no needle policy’, the ethical evaluation as part of teams’ registration and the modules in the Sports Directors training programme. These are all measures to achieve the necessary changes in the culture of our sport.

Finally, while the Independent Commission carries out its work, I feel it is also important that UCI works on restoring the credibility of our sport. I have decided that, during the first quarter of 2013, the UCI will set in motion a wide-ranging consultation exercise involving all cycling’s stakeholders to tackle issues of concern within the sport and work together to build a bright future for cycling.

The UCI will welcome your participation in this consultation, which will also look at how we can continue the process of globalising the sport, encourage wider participation and take measures to make the sport even more interesting for spectators.

This is not the first time cycling has reached a crossroads. Nor is it the first time it has had to engage in the painful process of confronting its past and beginning afresh. It will do so again with renewed vigour. Its stakeholders and fans can be assured that cycling will find a new path forward.

This summer in London, we saw that cycling is one of the world’s most popular sports. Its future will be defined by you the current generation of riders, who have proved that you can compete and win clean. In December, I will be meeting all first and second division teams to address the issues which will ensure a clean, anti-doping culture going forward.

Together, we can maintain cycling’s popularity and ensure its bright future.

Yours faithfully,

Pat McQuaid

President, UCI

Re: "PRO" Cycling Discussion

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:21 pm
by HammerTime2
Pat McQuaid wrote: We are confident that the Commission will conclude that the UCI has been one of the strongest of all sporting federations in fighting doping in sport for many years.
So why bother with the "fully independent" commission if you are so confident in what it will conclude?